[rscecil007]

Just more FYI, two more weights:

Fox SLS 450 x 2.75 - 362g
RCS Ti 450 x 2.75 - 363g

I had a Manitou spring on my DH rig at one point that was stupidly light compared to the normal steel and lighter than other ti springs I had access to. Wish I could find one of those in a 450 x 2.5 or 2.75.

 

[csermonet]

I took some pics of AVA (Avalanche) and Obtanium springs on the scale for comparison.
AVA 450 x 3 = 309g
Obtanium 400 x 3 = 320g
Both are light!

RD3 - are those standard length? or are they designed to be used with a spacer(like the lightweight stendec steel springs)?

 

[RD3]

RD3 - are those standard length? or are they designed to be used with a spacer(like the lightweight stendec steel springs)?

They are standard length, but note the low coil count compared to other ti springs. They both have a large inside diameter so they fit larger body shocks like Avy, etc.

 

[csermonet]

They are standard length, but note the low coil count compared to other ti springs. They both have a large inside diameter so they fit larger body shocks like Avy, etc.

yeah I see how low the coil count is, reason I asked is because I saw a review of the original obtainium springs and they were used with a spacer. thats pretty crazy though, your 450x3 is a full 120g lighter than mine. I could have saved almost a whole pound with that spring! lol. i wonder why there is so much variance between manufacturers of ti springs, you would think they would all make them with a low coil count and save material on their end and increase the margins. sell a lighter spring, make customers happier, save material, make more money.

 

[csermonet]

My bnib RCS came in today. Great ebay score!

do you have a way to weigh it? interested to see how close in weight it is to mine. is it 500x3?

 

[Tim300wsm]

I may have a scale I will check and yes its a 500

 

[92SE-R]

How do sa springs with the spacer compare in weight?

 

[rollertoaster]

FYI I received a super alloy racing spring yesterday for my 8.5x2.5 db coil. It's barely lighter than a standard steel coil at 512g (500lb) with the POM spacers installed. Not worth the price increase over standard steel. I'm sending it back.

 

[Jm_]

FYI I received a super alloy racing spring yesterday for my 8.5x2.5 db coil. It's barely lighter than a standard steel coil at 512g (500lb) with the POM spacers installed. Not worth the price increase over standard steel. I'm sending it back.

 

[rollertoaster]

Scammed by the bike industry once again I suppose. I guess the lizard people expect us to be satisfied with a weight savings of 6g.

 

[troy]

Scammed by the bike industry once again I suppose. I guess the lizard people expect us to be satisfied with a weight savings of 6g.

 

[rollertoaster]

I have one on the way

 

[mykel]

What is the $ amount attached to the Valt springs?

 

[rollertoaster]

I found them for like 117 I believe, plus shipping etc...

Universal cycles

 

[Kurt_80]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/J-L-Titanium-Ti-Coil-Spring-Rear-Suspension-for-Fox-Cane-Creek-DB-Marzocchi-BOS-/351388664476?var=&hash=item51d065829c:m:mZZMrnjTYMj9extbpLkNpdw

thoughts? any one ever heard of them?

My intended ti spring purchase fell through.

After looking around a little, I also found this guy is selling "ultra-light" models that are coming in around the 300g mark, which is quite competitive. I'm not sure about the quality though, especially in terms of accuracy of spring rate, not rubbing on the shock body etc.

Has anyone had any dealings with other J and L ti stuff?

There's been satisfied customers over on mtbr, but I wanted to get some opinions from others on this forum.

 

[tacubaya]

Cane Creek VALT springs are a killer deal, $60 USD.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Cane-Creek-Valt-Lightweight-Steel-Spring-1

 

[KenW449]

Cane Creek VALT springs are a killer deal, $60 USD.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Cane-Creek-Valt-Lightweight-Steel-Spring-1

Not for RS.

 

[SylentK]

Speaking of Ti springs. I've got this Obtainium ti spring collecting dust in the garage. 350 x 3.00. Don't quite remember what shock it was on. Fox or Marzocchi I assume. Remember the Rocco? Yes, it's that old, but hasn't been used in ages. PM If interested.

 

[mykel]

Not for RS.

I assume an imperial shock of decent size?

The new RS metric stuff seems to have the new generation lightweight steel.
I am having a RS coil tuned at Avalanche at the moment.
I asked Craig about one of his Ti springs - he said it was not worth it as the new RS metric lightweight steel stuff is almost the same weight and under 40 bucks. The older imperial sized springs are old heavy tech and have not been updated. Apparently nobody has been doing much work on Ti springs, so they are all old-skool. The work has gone into steel spring materials tech instead.

For me we are talking a 185x55 trunion shock, so a small lightweight steel spring is competitive. I wonder how well this scales - if it holds under all sizes or is there a size where Ti steps into a worthwhile lead?

Bet that really helps huh?

 

[KenW449]

Bet that really helps huh?

something like that.

 

[Kurt_80]

Speaking of Ti springs. I've got this Obtainium ti spring collecting dust in the garage. 350 x 3.00. Don't quite remember what shock it was on. Fox or Marzocchi I assume. Remember the Rocco? Yes, it's that old, but hasn't been used in ages. PM If interested.

Thanks mate, but I'm looking for a 450 x 2.75. Shame though, as an Obtanium is that old school high tech gear.

On that note, if anyone has a 450 x 2.75 high quality ti spring they want to offload, then please let me know.

 

[Kurt_80]

I assume an imperial shock of decent size?

The new RS metric stuff seems to have the new generation lightweight steel.
I am having a RS coil tuned at Avalanche at the moment.
I asked Craig about one of his Ti springs - he said it was not worth it as the new RS metric lightweight steel stuff is almost the same weight and under 40 bucks. The older imperial sized springs are old heavy tech and have not been updated. Apparently nobody has been doing much work on Ti springs, so they are all old-skool. The work has gone into steel spring materials tech instead.

For me we are talking a 185x55 trunion shock, so a small lightweight steel spring is competitive. I wonder how well this scales - if it holds under all sizes or is there a size where Ti steps into a worthwhile lead?

Bet that really helps huh?

In some ways? Haha

I also messaged Craig a few months ago, he said he's not making them anymore and recommended an SLS or similar spring. They seem decent, cheaper than ti, may not have the longevity though from what I hear.

Plus the bling factor is not there.

All in all, still on the hunt for a ti spring!

 

[Kurt_80]

Pulled the trigger on the J&L ultra light ti spring. Comes in at just over 280g, which is really competitive for a 450 x 2.75. No ride-time on it yet, will have to wait for the weekend to try it out, but promising so far....

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

I am in a similar boat, I want a light spring which isn't an sls due to the color. Thinking I might get one of these JL's for my insurgent...

 

[SinatorJ]

Rockshox specing a lightweight spring for super deluxe?

 

[Lelandjt]

I got J&Ls in 500 and 550x3.5" for my Sur-ron. They seem fine. Shorter and much lighter than the Fox 500x3.5 and no one else even makes a 550x3.5.

 

[davet]

I got J&Ls in 500 and 550x3.5" for my Sur-ron. They seem fine. Shorter and much lighter than the Fox 500x3.5 and no one else even makes a 550x3.5.

Any chance you weighed it? I'm looking for a lighter spring for my 10.5x3.5 Vivid. Impossible to find a Ti 3.5 spring, particularly for the Vivid. Damn steel 400lb steel coil weighs over 800g.

 

[Lelandjt]

Both the J&L 500&550×3.5" springs were 510g(?). They assured me that the spring rates were tested before shipping. The Fox 500×3.64" spring is 910g. The next length Fox makes below that is 3.25", which is on my GF's bike but it makes me nervous.

 

[Rockland]

It's unfortunate that good new Ti springs aren't all that prevalent. Every steel spring I've used (doesn't matter who makes it - new gen lights ones or conventional heavy), the coating wears off quickly & they rust.