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(03-16) 18:30 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- An ex-vegan who was hit with chili pepper-laced pies at an anarchist event in San Francisco said Tuesday that her assailants were cowards who should direct their herbivorous rage at the powerful - not at a fellow radical for writing a book denouncing animal-free diets.

Lierre Keith, a 45-year-old Arcata resident, was attacked at 2:15 p.m. Saturday at the 15th annual Bay Area Anarchist Book Fair while discussing her 2009 book, "The Vegetarian Myth." A 20-year vegan, Keith now argues that the diet is unhealthy and that agriculture is destroying the world.

As Keith stood at a lectern at the Hall of Flowers in Golden Gate Park, three people in masks and black hooded sweatshirts ran from backstage, shouted, "Go vegan!" and threw pies in her face. While they fled, some in the audience cheered or handed out leaflets.
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I guess I am the biggest hypocrite, because if it was Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin, I would be cheering like mad.

But it makes me mad that someone would be attacked for having a differing opinion.
 
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"anarchist vegans"

Words that make me giggle

Reminds me of the fight scene at the end of Blazing Saddles on the musical soundstage
 
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amish_matt said:
"herbivorous rage"
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I was reading some interesting information on herbivores recently.

A herbivore's plant based diet requires them to cheat/eat animal product due to nutritional deficiencies - why do people who favor vegetarian diets miss this basic fact of evolutionary, innate reality?

Ungulates (deer, reindeer, caribou, moose) eat cast antlers, bones, and even fish in spring to get minerals lacking in their diet (calcium and phosphorus). Bone eating (osteophagy) is seen in other herbivores too - domestic cattle, camels, giraffes, etc.

Herbivores even eat parts of live animals to satisfy their mineral deficiencies. Herbivores like sheep isolated to islands with limited resources have been recorded eating the wings and legs of live ground nesting birds (and also their heads, but those don't survive obviously). Rhum deer (also island dwellers) have been recorded developing this skill so well they can debone live shearwater chicks limbs and a survey showed they killed more shearwater than so-called predators. The predators of the island - eagles, ravens, and crows - actually preferred just to scavenge on shearwater remains from bambi :rofl:

Being a pure vegetarian or vegan is just not natural even for true herbivores.
 
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syadasti said:
I was reading some interesting information on herbivores recently.

A herbivore's plant based diet requires them to cheat/eat animal product due to nutritional deficiencies - why do people who favor vegetarian diets miss this basic fact of evolutionary, innate reality?

Ungulates (deer, reindeer, caribou, moose) eat cast antlers, bones, and even fish in spring to get minerals lacking in their diet (calcium and phosphorus). Bone eating (osteophagy) is seen in other herbivores too - camels, giraffes, etc.

Herbivores even eat parts of live animals to satisfy their mineral deficiencies. Herbivores like sheep isolated to islands with limited resources have been recorded eating the wings and legs of live ground nesting birds (and also their heads, but those don't survive obviously). Rhum deer (also island dwellers) have been recorded developing this skill so well they can debone live shearwater chicks limbs and a survey showed they killed more shearwater than so-called predators. The predators of the island - eagles, ravens, and crows - actually preferred just to scavenge on shearwater remains from bambi :rofl:

Being a pure vegetarian or vegan is just not natural even for true herbivores.
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Thanks Cliff. You could make a pornographic demolition derby boring.
 
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syadasti said:
I was reading some interesting information on herbivores recently.

Being a pure vegetarian or vegan is just not natural even for true herbivores.
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Where did you copy + paste that BS from? I've been veggie for damn near 13 years now and haven't once felt the need to go back to meat eating in because of "nutritional deficiency."

That's 100% BS. I have friends that have been vegan for years on end that are amazingly healthy. Several of the world's top bodybuilders are vegan - tell them that they are nutrient deficient.

Anyway, I'm done with this one...it hits a nerve with me. You're not going to convince me that eating meat is right and I'm not going to convince you that it's wrong.

As far as that author is concerned - b1tch deserves the negative attention. I'm not convinced pies to the face are the way to go though.
 
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drkenan said:
Where did you copy + paste that BS from? I've been veggie for damn near 13 years now and haven't once felt the need to go back to meat eating in because of "nutritional deficiency."

That's 100% BS. I have friends that have been vegan for years on end that are amazingly healthy. Several of the world's top bodybuilders are vegan - tell them that they are nutrient deficient.

Anyway, I'm done with this one...it hits a nerve with me. You're not going to convince me that eating meat is right and I'm not going to convince you that it's wrong.

As far as that author is concerned - b1tch deserves the negative attention. I'm not convinced pies to the face are the way to go though.
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You wouldn't be nearly so irritable if you had a nice steak once in a while.
 
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drkenan said:
Anyway, I'm done with this one...it hits a nerve with me. You're not going to convince me that eating meat is right and I'm not going to convince you that it's wrong.
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Nature/millions of years of evolution knows better. All scientific facts, you cannot deny reality. Maybe you need some B12 too:rofl:

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/516628431-77294469/ftinterface~db=all~content=a912672554~fulltext=713240930

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1676/04-056

http://www.asknature.org/strategy/8a00a75172279982975c2fb97061b657

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1894/0038-4909(2007)52[147:OBTDTG]2.0.CO;2





 
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Secret Squirrel said:
Imagine the verbosity that the color commentator would need...

"She's speeding around the figure 8 while doing an 8-ball listening to 8-tracks getting 8 inches!!!" [/Walter Cronkite voice]
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The dildozer rear ends the pussy wagon. It's spewing radiator fluid all over the place, wait I don't think that is radiator fluid. Either way the pussy wagon is licking it up.
 
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drkenan said:
Where did you copy + paste that BS from? I've been veggie for damn near 13 years now and haven't once felt the need to go back to meat eating in because of "nutritional deficiency."

That's 100% BS. I have friends that have been vegan for years on end that are amazingly healthy. Several of the world's top bodybuilders are vegan - tell them that they are nutrient deficient.

Anyway, I'm done with this one...it hits a nerve with me. You're not going to convince me that eating meat is right and I'm not going to convince you that it's wrong.

As far as that author is concerned - b1tch deserves the negative attention. I'm not convinced pies to the face are the way to go though.
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I hope you don't bite your fingernails or swallow your own saliva you fricking omnivore.
 
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I guess I take this story more seriously because I might have crossed paths with people at the book fair.
 
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Secret Squirrel said:
Really...nutritional yeast....huh...coulda sworn yeast were living organisms....unless...nutritional yeast is like dead yeast but not really yeast but kinda sorta yeast....no???

just sayin'.....
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Sorta (I assume you meant animals, not just living organism which includes plants and almost ever other thing people eat). Its a fungus which is closer to animals than plants. Like plants they have no central nervous system but they both have an endocrine system. This means they can recognize and react to outside stimuli.

Interesting general interest lecture on fungi:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/index.cfm?VideoID=559
 
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syadasti said:
Sorta (I assume you meant animals, not just living organism which includes plants and almost ever other thing people eat). Its a fungus which is closer to animals than plants. Like plants they have no central nervous system but they both have an endocrine system. This means they can recognize and react to outside stimuli.

Interesting general interest lecture on fungi:

http://www.cornell.edu/video/index.cfm?VideoID=559
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Huh...I see where this is going...and I'm hammered... I just usually don't associate yeast with the plant (vegan) world. Whatever.....

Just like people that claim they're vegan but eat egg whites. Really??? You're so self-righteous you split hairs....fine. Good for you. I'll have the 72oz. rare steak in your honor.
 
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Secret Squirrel said:
Huh...I see where this is going...and I'm hammered... I just usually don't associate yeast with the plant (vegan) world. Whatever.....

Just like people that claim they're vegan but eat egg whites. Really??? You're so self-righteous you split hairs....fine. Good for you. I'll have the 72oz. rare steak in your honor.
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They aren't animals but are more animal-like than plants. That's a fact just like humans are omnivores you can't instantly change millions of years of evolution. People don't know better than nature.

Here's a video for drkenan. Birds do the same style feeding technique to their chicks and I've done this myself to baby birds that don't have a mother at a wildlife rehab center. In many adult birds, those that are sexually excited throw-up/regurgitate food near (not excited enough) or violently and directly (super excited) into their mate's throat and some birds like vultures puke around or on animals they suspect as predators for defense. In captivity many species of birds are inclined to develop fatty liver disease on their own due their stress free life were they can eat too much too easily and not exercise enough. If people knowledgeable about birds they'd wouldn't be complaining about the way they are fed/raised.

 
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