Jimmy_Pop said:
It is. I remember seeing it around the start of the war.N8 said:Is this an oldie..???
I'd like to have one of those on my Subaru. Drive slow in the left lane will ya!golgiaparatus said:
i already have one. you gotta have a Yakima Rack, here i'll pm you the specs...Westy said:I'd like to have one of those on my Subaru. Drive slow in the left lane will ya!
hmmm for them dusty rides, it'd be a great way to get to the front of the pack.johnbryanpeters said:I prefer the handlebar mount.
Same here, it might be different if they had weapons and were using them. Wouldn;t it be great if they did that in the US if someone has a gun they get shot because they may use it in the futur. This world makes me sickMcGRP01 said:Watching that made me sick to my stomach...literally.
WOW yeah geeezzz thats some huge weaponry. I;m really glad they killed those guys. They could have done soooooo much with 3 ak47 and an rpg. Really wow I have to hand it to the 101st airborne, they really are doing a great job at protecting the world from those Iraqis. what morons I honestly wouldn;t be to sad if some iraqis shot down the apache. :nuts:genpowell71 said:That was an Apache from the 101st airborne outside of An Najaf. A reaction force was went out to investigate after it was over and an RPG 7 was found along with 3 AK47s.
JMAC said:WOW yeah geeezzz thats some huge weaponry. I;m really glad they killed those guys. They could have done soooooo much with 3 ak47 and an rpg. Really wow I have to hand it to the 101st airborne, they really are doing a great job at protecting the world from those Iraqis. what morons I honestly wouldn;t be to sad if some iraqis shot down the apache. :nuts:
You might be mistaken in the conflict the US is in. I think camels might be a better choice of animals in this instance.Wumpus said:Maybe hunt some water buffalo?
So you want American soldiers to get killed while their fighting for that right of yours to bash them whenever you want? Why dont you come on down to Fort Benning and say that to my face.JMAC said:WOW yeah geeezzz thats some huge weaponry. I;m really glad they killed those guys. They could have done soooooo much with 3 ak47 and an rpg. Really wow I have to hand it to the 101st airborne, they really are doing a great job at protecting the world from those Iraqis. what morons I honestly wouldn;t be to sad if some iraqis shot down the apache. :nuts:
who are you talking (typing) too?jon cross said:It's war. It's not pretty, it's not polite, and it's not neat. You don't fight fair, this isn't a boxing match. People are dying. You get the luxury of criticizing because you are thousands of kilometers away and someone else is doing the job for you. These people were soldiers, trained to kill the enemy- which is us this time around. Do you really think that we should not kill people if it isn't "fair" for them? Should our scout/snipers not drop mortar crews and artillery spotters because they aren't giving the enemy enough of a chance? Grow up kid, this is war. It's about winning and survival, not making a good impression.
It definitely takes a different breed. Although it seems most people here are pretty desensitized to this kind of footage, so it may be easier than i think .jon cross said:JMAC, I should have mentioned this. I agree that this kind of thing would weigh on the conscience of those flying the missions, but they are saving the lives of the troops on the ground. This is a war, it is violent and killing is necessary, the naivete of those who arrogantly assume otherwise is growing frustrating.
Well you're the moron here, water buffalos live in Africa not Iraq :eviltongu and your right if it was a fight between an rpg-7, 3 ak47s vs. and apache than sure I'm all for it. The fact is the poor guy ran of the road and through the RPG on the ground. he than ran back. He didn;t pick it up and take aim at teh apache, nor did they fire a single round from the aks. Soooo you're basically you're almost as much of a moron as those apache pilots. :evil:Wumpus said:You're a moron. An rpg-7 is an anti-tank weapon very capable of downing a helicopter or blowing up a humvee. What do you think they were going to do it with it? Maybe hunt some water buffalo?
Ok sure you're right about that....in a way....I;m totally against your president and his war. I shouldn;t put blame on the soldiers. Just your moron of a president and the morons who elected him.jon cross said:It's war. It's not pretty, it's not polite, and it's not neat. You don't fight fair, this isn't a boxing match. People are dying. You get the luxury of criticizing because you are thousands of kilometers away and someone else is doing the job for you. These people were soldiers, trained to kill the enemy- which is us this time around. Do you really think that we should not kill people if it isn't "fair" for them? Should our scout/snipers not drop mortar crews and artillery spotters because they aren't giving the enemy enough of a chance? Grow up kid, this is war. It's about winning and survival, not making a good impression.
No i don;t want american soldiers to die....fact is I don;t want anyone to die...this pointless war pisses me off incredibly. I've happily said that to a friend who;s now a US marine and will be going to Iraq in June.genpowell71 said:So you want American soldiers to get killed while their fighting for that right of yours to bash them whenever you want? Why dont you come on down to Fort Benning and say that to my face.
I'm so with you on this one. There's such a lack of critical thinking in the US it's beyond sad. This moron of a president lied to the general public, used the religious-right to get his ass back in office so he could have daddy go over there and reap the rewards of this crime. The search for WMD has officially been called off and they found nothing, and yet this asshat of a pres has yet to issue a formal apology for the invasion of a once sovereign nation. Yeah yeah yeah, Sadam was a prick; he murdered his own, and did this and that. But did the western nations have the right to go over there and impose our Judeo Christian values and believes on those in the Middle East? Pakistan (spelling?), ok, I'll give you that one. Hell I'm 100% behind this nation on that one, but Iraq? For those of you who believe we have a right to be in Iraq, get a grip and do some research. Read up on both side of the argument and come back and tell me there's a good reason why we should be over there. And if you come at me, take out those of your arguments that contain religious values/morals and try again. You won't have a ground to stand on. This country was built on the belief of freedoms, and this included religion. Yet, when push comes to shove, when someone else has a differing set of values due to religion and is acting on those beliefs, we lie to ourselves (by saying theyre developing WMDs) and go ahead and bomb said nation back into the Stone Age. What the f**k kind of bull$hit hypocrisy is this nation showing the world!JMAC said:Ok sure you're right about that....in a way....Im totally against your president and his war. I shouldnt put blame on the soldiers. Just your moron of a president and the morons who elected him.
Maybe you should do your homework before you start spouting off.JMAC said:Well you're the moron here, water buffalos live in Africa not Iraq
Sooo... you're still a tard lol. The only water buffalo in Iraq are domestic aka not wild. So your an idiot because you can have any kind of animal all over the world domestic that is. Please don;t try and act like I don;t know anything about wildlife....my dad is one of the top marine biologists in the world and my mom is an envriomentalist who works all over the world...both have lifed in Africa where water buffalo are wild. :nuts:Wumpus said:Maybe you should do your homework before you start spouting off.
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/djligda/wbiraq.htm
Thank you for having a consciencePau11y said:I'm so with you on this one. There's such a lack of critical thinking in the US it's beyond sad. This moron of a president lied to the general public, used the religious-right to get his ass back in office so he could have daddy go over there and reap the rewards of this crime. The search for WMD has officially been called off and they found nothing, and yet this asshat of a pres has yet to issue a formal apology for the invasion of a once sovereign nation. Yeah yeah yeah, Sadam was a prick; he murdered his own, and did this and that. But did the western nations have the right to go over there and impose our Judeo Christian values and believes on those in the Middle East? Pakistan (spelling?), ok, I'll give you that one. Hell I'm 100% behind this nation on that one, but Iraq? For those of you who believe we have a right to be in Iraq, get a grip and do some research. Read up on both side of the argument and come back and tell me there's a good reason why we should be over there. And if you come at me, take out those of your arguments that contain religious values/morals and try again. You won't have a ground to stand on. This country was built on the belief of freedoms, and this included religion. Yet, when push comes to shove, when someone else has a differing set of values due to religion and is acting on those beliefs, we lie to ourselves (by saying theyre developing WMDs) and go ahead and bomb said nation back into the Stone Age. What the f**k kind of bull$hit hypocrisy is this nation showing the world!
You know, Bush was such a joke of a pres until 9/11 happened. I mean think about it, the reading and speaking ability of a 12 year old and the grace to choking on a pretzel almost killing himself 9/11 would have made him one of the most prominent US President in history, much like what WWII did for FDR. Yet, because of HIS stupidity, yes stupidity, he is now the MOST HATED pres WORLDWIDE, EVER in the history of the US. If were truly a democratic nation, shouldnt the voice of the rest of the world be heard? Why? Well, because this nation has its moral values extended in its policing actions in every corner of the world. Is Jack in Jill in the middle of the Corn Belt accurately informed on what this moron is doing to the rest of the world or are they fed a filtered, morally digestible propaganda that meets their religious requirements? I mean, CHRIST, open your eyes!
Ok, sorry about that. Rant over. Have a good weekend.
It's not so much having a conscience because the things I'd like to do to those beheading bastards....JMAC said:Thank you for having a conscience
Jimmy_Pop said:
Ummm, Pakistan? We've never invaded Pakistan...Pau11y said:Pakistan (spelling?), ok, I'll give you that one. Hell I'm 100% behind this nation on that one, but Iraq?
Here's my beef w/ this kind of thinking. Extreme and overwhelming fire power saves lives, our soldiers lives. This is true, proven here as well as in WWII w/ the use of nukes on Japan. But with our end goal of "winning", are we willing to achieve this by any means? Say this is not a dirt poor nation we're in conflict w/, and it's someone also w/ nuke tech, say someone like N. Korea. Does this escalate till both our nations are standing at the Big Red Button daring each other? In this instance the sledge on the fly worked. But follow this to the logical conclusion here:MikeD said:So yeah, it was hitting a housefly with a sledgehammer in the video...and that's what the military is trained to do. The only "issue" for the US is the economics of it...several helicopters in the air, burning expensive fuel and ammo, just to take out some small arms and 3 insurgents. But hey, we've got the tech, and perhaps this kind of thing (attack without warning from the sky if you're simply carrying weapons) will have a great psychological impact (though I really doubt it.)