You do have to run them through the swingarm to get a nice line. It is a hassle. He is using sticky jagwire cable guides, i may do the same thing.
Why did you not go with the 9.5 x 3 shock? lack of availability? is dave still pushing manitou shocks on everyone down there?
I think Dave has a deal with manitou, as I'm supposed to put them as a sponsor on race apps. as for not going 9.5, Dave patiently took the time to explain that I'd have more adjustability with the 8.75 due to piggy backs hitting frames, or swingarms hitting seat tubes, etc.
Dave used to be one of the lead race guys for manitou, so that is quite possible.
That might explain it. ou do mean Merten right?
Ya Merten.
Ya, all of our team bikes are the same matte grey color. The MsIsles, 223s etc.
Except for the fact that the damping is still heaps better than a Boxxer (and before you roll your eyes again, I own an 04 Boxxer Team right now, so don't say I'm just hating RS).
Yeah, and how much different is one.Originally posted by Acadian
Idiotic answer to that would be 1
sorry just couldn't resist!
I'm sorry Jm_ but you make alot of statements without proving them. Now I know that a foes is stiff, but since you have gotten a one, that's all I here. Have you ever ridden an Orange? I have had barely any time on one, but guess what? It does have a damn stiff back-end.
I'd say a little more is .5lbs. 3lbs is "quite a bit more". If you hang 3lbs of lead near the BB of the chumba wumba, it probably will handle a lot crappier.Originally posted by Inclag
I'm sorry Jm_ but you make alot of statements without proving them. Now I know that a foes is stiff, but since you have gotten a one, that's all I here. Have you ever ridden an Orange? I have had barely any time on one, but guess what? It does have a damn stiff back-end.
This is almost like your infactuation with the demo-9 and the fact that because it weighs a little more than most every other dh-rig, the fact that it has a low CG means nothing. Are you telling me that people that ride a chumbawumba all of a sudden have a poor cornering bike after they install a steel crankset with a steel spindle and BMW shinburger pedals?
Stop hating, uness you have some numbers to back yourself up
Come ride one and you will see. Until then you can shut your assumption making mouth, as you are completely incorrect...as usual.
I am beginning to get the impression that you are kind of a dick! I hope you are kidding, because I can hardly remember a post of yours in the last few weeks/months that wasn't out right negative. What gives man? I would think since you are trying to run a business/race team, that you would be more professional. If you are kidding disregard this but really it seems like you're serious.Originally posted by Transcend
Come ride one and you will see. Until then you can shut your assumption making mouth, as you are completely incorrect...as usual.
Usually kidding, in this case completely serious.Originally posted by punkassean
I am beginning to get the impression that you are kind of a dick! I hope you are kidding, because I can hardly remember a post of yours in the last few weeks/months that wasn't out right negative. What gives man? I would think since you are trying to run a business/race team, that you would be more professional. If you are kidding disregard this but really it seems like you're serious.
WE all run what WE choose and that's about it. If JM_ talks badly about the Orange design without real experience or warrant, I think most 
's are smart enough to realize that if it's good enough for Peatty, it's good enough for them. And there aren't any threads about Oranges breaking left and right, etc. I guess what I'm saying is let the products speak for themselves and also that lowering to the level of slandering (forgive me if that's not the exact appropriate usage of that word) other products/ 's makes a person look immature or unprofessional. all of this comes with the usual disclaimer of course...IMHO And I repeat, this is not aimed at any one person.
funny you say DB, or better yet Raleigh. When they are both Derby (parent company) bikes and made in the same plants. IE; of equal quality.
Oh yeah, and "stiffest rear end ever" and "most popular privateer bike in the world" comments are not BS??
do some research smart guy.
unfortunately it is PART of the world, and therefore is not the be all and end all of the story.
oh...thank you for telling me how ****ty the US is. BTW, since it is part of the world, and a large one at that, especially considering bikes-bought, then maybe the 223 isn't the "most popular privateer" bike in the world. I'm pretty sick of hearing how the 223 is the "best bike in the world" or "most popular" or whatever, it's pretty rediculous. If you are going to make comments about the bikes you yhappen to be sponsored with, for gods sake don't make such outrageous claims that are unsupported. Talking about frame-design and certain constant factors and design limitations is not making outragous claims.
I had two yesterday, oh wait you mean Orange bikes not fruit. I have one of those, but only the color not the brand and it's only half orange at that. Did you know nothing rhymes with orange?
