Yes, dropping from 29 to 27.5 lowers it about 0.75", but Plush Mode raises it back up about 0.3", plus running a 140 fork raises it up a little more and keeps the head angle slacker...that setup would be have a BB height around 13.0".
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top tube isn't curved for looks. it's to fit a bottle cage in a non-moronic location.
That's stupid, a straight TT would have way less standover clearance, you wouldn't be able to fit the water bottle in there, and the tube would have to be thicker.
For comparison, look at the Pedälhead, the top tube is a straight line from head tube to rear axle (size S and M). The Trail Pistol TT is lower than that under your balls when you hop off the saddle.
As far as making straight tubed 26" frames, nobody else wants to buy that.
For comparison, look at the Pedälhead, the top tube is a straight line from head tube to rear axle (size S and M). The Trail Pistol TT is lower than that under your balls when you hop off the saddle.
As far as making straight tubed 26" frames, nobody else wants to buy that.
I can't argue against the performance aspects of the frame. But I personally need to like the looks of a new bike as well as the features before I get that tingly feeling that makes me spend unreasonable amounts on N+1.
Didn't Trek just revert to more straight tubes claiming that they are stiffer? They even had to put this knock block thing in so that the fork is not hitting the DT.
And why not offer a full custom option for those that aren't trend whores? The only other company that does decent custom FS bikes in house is Nicolai, so a niche right there!
dude have you been living under a rock? camelbacks are out, fanny packs are in. ENDUUUURRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!A solution for that problem already exists: it is called Camelbak.
relevant to the original topic: foes is apparently moving into a larger space.
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2016/10/05/foes-racing-move-new-larger-facility-san-dimas#.V_Z1ZfkrLIU
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2016/10/05/foes-racing-move-new-larger-facility-san-dimas#.V_Z1ZfkrLIU
the head tube is stronger with the straight down tube , but the downside is the fork will hit the frame hence them designed the built in steering stop .
Those are definitely not off the shelf, I worked with our tube supplier and designed something that did what we wanted and could be manufactured without incurring insane tooling costs.
I figured, but was just surprised to see you guys using something with that kind of manipulation given low(er) volumes and so on. That's neat that it was viable.
I design a ton of goofy custom weldments at work, but my shit's mostly one of one, so custom drawn tubes aren't on my radar at all.
It is moving in the right direction.
From an aesthetic point of view the current TP is a mix of swoopy front triangle and straight chain and seat stays. That doesn't go well together IMO. If you would put that straight TT lower on the seat tube so it is nearly in line with the seat stays and reduce the bends in the DT it would look more like a coherent design. Again, just my opinion.
shock yoke
otherwise i like that bike.
that design is so 1995
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@mtg
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
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Just aesthetically, that is beautiful. So much more so than that stupid swoopy thing.
I want one just to hang on my wall as art.
I want one just to hang on my wall as art.
I owned that model FSR back in the day and it fit a water bottle and I wore a fanny pack imagine that .
looks flickable@mtg
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
you'll be gutted when you have an off. literally.@mtg
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
Awesome, in return for such stunning design work, I'll give you 5% off on the first production model.@mtg
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
@troy you could learn something here.
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look.
Pffff...@mtg
Just like my lines of coke, I like my toobz straight. It just gives a bike a more purposeful, industrial look. But I also understand the issues presented in terms of accommodating water bottle mount points, so I wanted to run this conceptual design by you -
You will notice it has a lot sweet, almost handsome, straight tubes and yet also several locations to mount a water bottle cage. Again, I just think straight tubes provide a crisper aesthetic quality to a frame, and hopefully you will agree. I can send you over the drawings if want to mock one up for test mule purposes. And while I know you've settled on the Trail Pistol moniker, if you decide to offer my design as a production model, I would humbly request that you use the "Fucktard Frame Technology" nomenclature.
Your friend,
Jacky
DC SPECIAL
That's the most beautiful bike I've ever seen.
