Yo RM, can we change the name of this forum to the Christian Bashing, It's not hate if it comes from the left Debate Forum?
Can we change the name.......
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they're showing the passion this wknd at church (we meet in what used to be a movie theatre). i've never seen it but for a few segments here & there. if i could project how i would receive it, i say take all the christian bashing crap that gets doled out here.
you know how rediculous we can look when we smell blood in the water and succumb to a mob mentality?
so then do they.
so give them all the rope they want to hang themselves.
so take it.
you know how rediculous we can look when we smell blood in the water and succumb to a mob mentality?
so then do they.
so give them all the rope they want to hang themselves.
so take it.
$tinkle said:
I didn't understand your post either
I will say the drone of the Christian bashing does get old. However I approach this 2 ways:
1) I tend to consider the source, by and large those shooting their mouths off really don't have a clue what they are saying - most of the time with respect to the Bible and
2) what am I doing to change the perception among many that being a Christian is lame. Granted I can whine up a storm but how am I proactive in changing that perception.
Anyway, that's just my 2 shekels worth.................
1) I tend to consider the source, by and large those shooting their mouths off really don't have a clue what they are saying - most of the time with respect to the Bible and
2) what am I doing to change the perception among many that being a Christian is lame. Granted I can whine up a storm but how am I proactive in changing that perception.
Anyway, that's just my 2 shekels worth.................
Yeah, I hear ya. But I don't recall either you or I casting into doubt anyone elses intellect or breeding on the basis of their beliefs or lack thereof.
Yeah, the two way street for the respect would be nice, but it's no biggie. I just try not to stoop to their level, and respond as Jesus did when He was getting the snot kicked out of Him..........with love.Damn True said:
While I do see some bashing I also the difference in how to approach these "bashings". You have personally made many attacks toward my lifestyle and the way i choose to live so sometimes I give it back to you. I see it as DT bashing not christian bashing(since we can't lump all christians into the same bunch). You really shouldn't be complaining with the way that you've approached me in the past. Andy is an example of how to deal with these things, Stinkle and yourself seem more prone to hate and insults(toward the gay population for example) Where Andy has some logic and reason and compassion behind him. But hey that's just my 2 centsDamn True said:
Show me an anti-gay statement. Just one.
In fact: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76375&highlight=gay
In fact: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76375&highlight=gay
It's Tolerance Month here at RideMonkey....
Somebody call me the waaaaaaaambulance. Not feeling the love DT? Pathetic.Damn True said:
Actually, I'll try to chime in with a non-smartass remark...
Bashing someone over their beliefs - or lack thereof, is lame.
IMHO, no one has the real answers, so what makes a Christian man's belief system more/less plausible?
I "lean left", if I need to put a label on my views, but I have respect for all religious beliefs. I just don't like many of the agendas that some self-professed "Christians" attach to their beliefs. Much damage has been done "in His name".
Like any group, there are some bad apples. The bigger the group, the more apples. This can be said for the "Left" as well.
Bashing someone over their beliefs - or lack thereof, is lame.
IMHO, no one has the real answers, so what makes a Christian man's belief system more/less plausible?
I "lean left", if I need to put a label on my views, but I have respect for all religious beliefs. I just don't like many of the agendas that some self-professed "Christians" attach to their beliefs. Much damage has been done "in His name".
Like any group, there are some bad apples. The bigger the group, the more apples. This can be said for the "Left" as well.
Damn True said:
True.. it is called "ignore"...
Why dont' you use it.
I haven't seen Changleen offer anything of any value on this site. So why listen to him at all?
this is subjetive. if they dont accept the bible as an authoritary source, or an absolute frame of reference.. then "they" are exempted from the "dont have a clue what they are saying".....Andyman_1970 said:
being a christian isnt lame per se.. but being a fundamentalist (whether christian, jewish, muslim or marxist) sucks balls. sometimes fundamentalists take the skin of christians. and they denounce any attack on their fundamentalism, as an attack on their christianity...
Wah. 
I concurSerial Midget said:Wah.
My point was is that there are some who bash Christanity and either mis-quote or take out of context various passages to prove some point contrary to Christanity.ALEXIS_DH said:
In the PD forum we tend to be sticklers about getting the facts right, which sometimes is overlooked when quoting the Bible - that was my point.
Also, I tend to get less worked up over the "frothers" who make it abundantly clear they dislike Christians, so I don't waste my time on essentially deaf ears to any other point of view.
Do a search of the word Gay and my screen name and you will come up with 18 threads with a match. Feel free to read each word of each thread. You will find nothing.Lexx D said:While I do see some bashing I also the difference in how to approach these "bashings". You have personally made many attacks toward my lifestyle and the way i choose to live so sometimes I give it back to you. I see it as DT bashing not christian bashing(since we can't lump all christians into the same bunch). You really shouldn't be complaining with the way that you've approached me in the past. Andy is an example of how to deal with these things, Stinkle and yourself seem more prone to hate and insults(toward the gay population for example) Where Andy has some logic and reason and compassion behind him. But hey that's just my 2 cents
You owe me an apology.
True, rather than getting pissed off I suggest offering some grace to people.
You seem to post out of anger some times. You are a saved sinner, rejoice!
It's not just Christians who get bagged on here, it's Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Hawks, Doves, Jews, Muslims, well you get the picture.
I cringe at some stuff, sure, but for every slam against Christians I am encouraged by the threads where non-believers are told the gospel by Andyman. He is doing a super job communicating the values and beliefs in way that isn't offensive.
You seem to post out of anger some times. You are a saved sinner, rejoice!
It's not just Christians who get bagged on here, it's Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Hawks, Doves, Jews, Muslims, well you get the picture.
I cringe at some stuff, sure, but for every slam against Christians I am encouraged by the threads where non-believers are told the gospel by Andyman. He is doing a super job communicating the values and beliefs in way that isn't offensive.
haha christians have thier president in office, you can't cry like your the oppressed underdog anymore. 
I think we need to invite some Muslims and Buddhists and maybe a few Zoroastrians and a couple of Druids to join ridemonkey so we can bash them too.
LOL, no. I said I support gay marriage.Changleen said:
....and no Silver....I wont marry you.
Christian bashing is a counter attack.
Original sin says I, as a person, am bad - so bad that I need saving. How is this not a frontal assault on all of humanity? Add to that the whole hell fire and damnation nonsense and I'd say the Christian bashers have a strong case.
Andy, care to shed some light on Original Sin and how it relates to Christianity?
Original sin says I, as a person, am bad - so bad that I need saving. How is this not a frontal assault on all of humanity? Add to that the whole hell fire and damnation nonsense and I'd say the Christian bashers have a strong case.
Andy, care to shed some light on Original Sin and how it relates to Christianity?
Or the concept of 'Hell' for that matter?BuddhaRoadkill said:Christian bashing is a counter attack.
Original sin says I, as a person, am bad - so bad that I need saving. How is this not a frontal assault on all of humanity? Add to that the whole hell fire and damnation nonsense and I'd say the Christian bashers have a strong case.
Andy, care to shed some light on Original Sin and how it relates to Christianity?
It would be cool if they could get Jesus to run as the democrat leader... Maybe he could enticed with a Range Rover or something...Skookum said:haha christians have thier president in office, you can't cry like your the oppressed underdog anymore.
Im not real sure how the whole original sin thing factors into this conversation but Ill share a few thoughts on the subject.BuddhaRoadkill said:Christian bashing is a counter attack.
Original sin says I, as a person, am bad - so bad that I need saving. How is this not a frontal assault on all of humanity? Add to that the whole hell fire and damnation nonsense and I'd say the Christian bashers have a strong case.
Andy, care to shed some light on Original Sin and how it relates to Christianity?
First, the Bible does not start with Genesis chapter 3 (the fall), it starts with Genesis chapter 1 where God seeing His creation (man and woman in His image) and He says it is good. Being human as originally created and originally intended is good when people say when they screw up well Im only human as if to say they are worthless or something. This kind of thinking is a fundamental misunderstanding of Genesis 1.
Sin is what gets in the way of us being fully human and living as God intends for us to live. We are so hard wired for this that in Romans Paul says that even the Pagans sometimes by their conscience do what is required by the Torah even though they dont know the Torah why is that, because its hard wired into us.
This is one of my beefs with Calvinism, the whole Total depravity of man deal which would seem to run counter to Pauls sometimes those who dont know the Torah sometimes live it out if a person is totally depraved then they wouldnt be living out the Torah every once in a while.
Now that said, Biblically because a pagan lives out the Torah from time to time does not get their ticket punched as far as salvation is concerned.
Anyway, those are some thoughts that are bouncing around my head this morning on the subject.
Changleen said:
Did someone say something?