Champery World Cup - Live Thread
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Doubtful.
But when will we see the M9 available for the public?
yeah, there is no need for a fender on the new turner dhr, mud totally isnt an issue when racing.
Some interesting names up there in the top 25. Going to be an awesome race to watch. 
Neko is hustling
Dirt: "We’ve just heard from Champery that Aaron Gwin doesn’t realise that he has been DQ’d. Seems that he fell off on the last steep section, went out of the tapes then rejoined lower down. From what we gather the track was too steep for him to climb back up to rejoin where he left. He reckons he lost 10 seconds in the crash. Does this mean that he has not qualified for tomorrow? We know that if you are top 20 you are protected, but we are not sure if being disqualified affects this. More news as we get it."
as far as i know he is out for finals with a DQ in semi's...sucks
edit: does anyone know what gwin's time was?
as far as i know he is out for finals with a DQ in semi's...sucks
edit: does anyone know what gwin's time was?
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Depends on the circumstances I'd say. DQed for cutting a switchback and not pushing back up? Should be covered. DQed for smoking a spliff half way down the track? Probably not covered
Bryceland: currently 19th in UCI rankings, but 30th in World Cup rankings. Will he be protected? I assume so as they can't go off of the World Cup rankings for the first race of the year, so the "top 20" thing must refer to the rolling UCI ranking? Aye?
Good point. I didn't think of that.
Also, along the same lines, if someone qualifies say 78th, but 2 top 20 protected riders make it, do they bump out said rider from the finals????
Surely there is a panel in place that can make a "human" ruling and allow bending of a rule if this is the case. If a rider physically cant rejoin the trail where he went off, then you cant penalize them for not doing so.
Go Gwin! I hope he makes it in...
Nope, you often end up with 81/82 riders racing finals for this reason.
(Plus your maths is bad, your scenario would put the person 80th which would have still been fine anyway!
)i'm hoping so as well - IF they determine he is officially DQ'd though i think that's it for him, no finals.
anyone know what his time was?
he had a 4:31
Gwin left the start gate... as soon as that happens a protected rider is into the finals. all you need to do is show up and start the clock like Sam Hill did at Ft. William.
If Gwin had walked down if would have been called a DNF, but since he rode and posted a time they give a DSQ. More a way of classifying riders than anything else, can't see how this would keep him out of finals.
If Gwin had walked down if would have been called a DNF, but since he rode and posted a time they give a DSQ. More a way of classifying riders than anything else, can't see how this would keep him out of finals.
Good point, I am pretty sure Rennie did something similar a little while back as well?
I agree. Unless he was disqualified for something more heinous, which doesn't appear to have been the case. Lucky for Cathro that Aaron got DQed!
I hope so...
Fraser, please keep us posted on the situation with Gwin.
but doesn't disqualified mean not qualified? my understanding is the automatic top 20 does not trump a DQ.
i want gwin in more than anything and think that regardless of what happens, this opens up a huge can of worms for rules about exiting and entering the course. in moto you can re-enter anywhere as long as you don't gain an advantage right? i know it's different in a multi-lap, 30 minute event, but still. at champery, if it's not possible to climb back to the exit, what's a rider to do? points are at stake and every position matters, ya know?
when sam was hurt in scotland, did he just roll out of the gate to get a finals spot or was he required to actually finish his run to get the spot in the finals (not that it mattered since he couldn't ride anyway).
i want gwin in more than anything and think that regardless of what happens, this opens up a huge can of worms for rules about exiting and entering the course. in moto you can re-enter anywhere as long as you don't gain an advantage right? i know it's different in a multi-lap, 30 minute event, but still. at champery, if it's not possible to climb back to the exit, what's a rider to do? points are at stake and every position matters, ya know?
when sam was hurt in scotland, did he just roll out of the gate to get a finals spot or was he required to actually finish his run to get the spot in the finals (not that it mattered since he couldn't ride anyway).
but gwin is not registered with an actual time on the results.
With that said does this not have an effect on the points race? I'm sure with his time, he didn't have much to grab, but I'd imagine for the riders that aren't running away from the rest of the field, points are tight and any little bit will help in the overall. Seems pretty sucky to be losing out on points when "technically" he didn't gain anything by crashing and in fact lost time.
If he gets into the finals despite the DQ, that's great, but it seems a bit unfair that he loses out on points. Wonder if the UCI will consider overturning it.
I suppose it's up the the commassaire in question to decide on the meaning of "in any event". My experience is that as long as you break the start beam you're in. We'll see.
ok, so here are results from ft william. sam did not finish, but qualified...does a DQ equal the same as DNF?
i hope so for gwin (and our viewing pleasure!).
PDF on the UCI site has Gwin as DSQ from qualis but with Q for qualified for finals.
Where did Neko qualify?
congrats to Neko! great to see him come back strong!
edit: did BuckoW do the course the last time the WC was there?
edit: did BuckoW do the course the last time the WC was there?
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My question is this...
Where in the start list will Gwin go if he is in fact qualified. Which I assume since he's ranked #3 he is despite his listing as DSQ. Will he start dead last? if so, he could hold that Hot seat for quite a long time,
Where in the start list will Gwin go if he is in fact qualified. Which I assume since he's ranked #3 he is despite his listing as DSQ. Will he start dead last? if so, he could hold that Hot seat for quite a long time,
Forgive my ignorance but who is this Neko chap, and why is everyone harking on about him?
US kid who probably is going to win world juniors if he gets back to form after breaking his arm.