[Kntr]

I ordered a set of pewter CK hubs from my LBS. It has been 2 months and they are telling me that CK is out of stock and will have them soon. Does this sound right? They cant give me a date. Is CK really this far behind on certain colors?

Anyone have a pic of the gold? Their website gold looks yellow. Is it a gold color or more of a yellow.

 

[Curb Hucker]

yes CK does get behind on their colors. and their gold is kind of yellow, but not as yellow as it appears online.

 

[punkassean]

Gold is better than pewter, pewter gets too purple-ish for my taste.

I have the dark blue stuff on my hoo-ride

 

[dlb]

Yip, CK only does colors a few times a year, Ive been waiting for green hubs since June.

 

[TheInedibleHulk]

Not the bike shop's fault, CK is always behind.

 

[Kntr]

My bike shop seems to be pretty honest. I figured it was CK.

 

[-dustin]

Yip, CK only does colors a few times a year, Ive been waiting for green hubs since June.

this is what i was told.

they take orders, then do the anodizing of shells accordingly, a few times a year. i waited 4 months for black SS hubs.

 

[Kntr]

Well, the bike shop called today and said CK told them 6-8 more weeks on pewter. They have other colora instock.....

These wheels are going on my Red Foes Fly. I have the yellow Dee Maxx rims and silver spokes and nipples. What color hubs would look good? Any ideas?

Red, Gold, Pewter, Black, Silver??

HELP

 

[azonicbruce]

These wheels are going on my Red Foes Fly. I have the yellow Dee Maxx rims and silver spokes and nipples. What color hubs would look good? Any ideas?

Red, Gold, Pewter, Black, Silver??

HELP

Honestly, you've already got at least 4 colors on the bike. Adding red or gold would be futile IMO; I'd say stick with Black or Silver for this one.

 

[-dustin]

gold hubs with yellow rims? no no no.

i say black, and get a black post, too.

 

[Eurotrash]

I vote for Black ano.
yello and gold don't mix well

 

[OGRipper]

Can't go wrong with black (stealth bling) or silver (shiny bling).

If you want you'll have the hubs forever, so don't worry about matching them to your current frame or rims.

 

[Pau11y]

Go green. Do the exploded paint factory look; chics dig it

 

[Mr Tiles]

black all the way...It seems to be the easiest color to get a hold of from King...

 

[SuperSlow]

pink is the way to go

 

[Kntr]

So the LBS calls me today and there is a 2 month wait on any color CK hubs. The only color they have in stock is red in both front and rear. I guess I wait or go Hadley. What a crock. I always thought CK was on the ball. Whats up?

 

[-dustin]

not with hubs. i think ordering and not waiting is less common than being in your situation. you can check online places, if you want.

 

[binary visions]

So the LBS calls me today and there is a 2 month wait on any color CK hubs. The only color they have in stock is red in both front and rear. I guess I wait or go Hadley. What a crock. I always thought CK was on the ball. Whats up?

"What a crock"? CK is a tiny company, they can't possibly keep up with all of the orders of all of the colors, so they bank on the fact that anyone who wants to shell out $500 for a set of their hubs is going to be patient because the customer probably knows what they want if they're dropping that much coin on a botique bike part.

I'd be willing to bet that they're right in that theory most of the time.

 

[dma528]

CK has had problems with getting their anodizing done since they have moved. They do some colors in house but the other colors are done out of an outfit in socal. But I am told that shipping is too expensive to have them shipped there and back. CK has had problems finding another anodizing place in Oregon (because of there quality control) last I herd. Some parts distributors have also chosen to only have black in there 2005 catalogs due to this fact.

And as others have said I would stick with black because the hubs will probably outlast your current bike and black is so easy to match up with other colors<!>

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[dma528]

oh yah and Hadley is even harder to get<!>

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[Jeremy R]

I think you should get green ones.
That way, everytime you look down at them, you can be reminded
just how much you spent on a pair of hubs for a bicycle.

 

[Kntr]

Ill probably go with black or silver. I just thought the pewter would be different. I have had the hubs on order for over 2 months and they are telling me 2 more months. Four months is a long time to wait for hubs. The only problem I have found is no one has both hubs in the same color. CK has both in red. CK has black rear and QBP has black front. Maybe Ill just have the LBS order the hubs from 2 different places.

 

[dma528]

According to QBP website and they have “7 - King ISO Front Disc Hub32h Black” “5 - King ISO 20mm Front Disc Hub 32h Black” “10 - King ISO Rear Disc Hub 32h Black”. Take that for what its worth.

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[-dustin]

yeah, QBP does have black ISOs in-stock. order them.

 

[punkassean]

QBP costs a lot more than EP direct from King, but if you need 'em now...

 

[Brian HCM#1]

QBP costs a lot more than EP direct from King, but if you need 'em now...

Not everyone gets EP.

 

[Curb Hucker]

Not everyone gets EP.

I do

 

[punkassean]

Not everyone gets EP.

I though EP stood for everybody's price?

Of course not, but people were mentioning that QBP and other places had them in stock so I figured if he had access to QBP then he had access to KING direct. Even if his shop orders them through QBP it will end up costing him more than if his shop gets them direct. Either way his cost will be higher and that's the point I was making

 

[Brian HCM#1]

I though EP stood for everybody's price?

Of course not, but people were mentioning that QBP and other places had them in stock so I figured if he had access to QBP then he had access to KING direct. Even if his shop orders them through QBP it will end up costing him more than if his shop gets them direct. Either way his cost will be higher and that's the point I was making

QBP may only carry a few colors, I don't think it will effect the price one way or the other. Its not like its a big difference in price from QBP to CK. Bottom line is he won't see the difference at the register.

 

[punkassean]

QBP may only carry a few colors, I don't think it will effect the price one way or the other. Its not like its a big difference in price from QBP to CK. Bottom line is he won't see the difference at the register.

I beg to differ...
You are correct about the colors, last I knew QBP only had black and maybe a few basic colors but their price is a lot higher than EP and still somewhat higher than KING direct. Enough to justify the shop passing it on. If I recall, QBP charges about 15-20% over KING direct pricing and 25-30% over EP. With KING stuff being so spendy to begin with every dollar saved helps!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

I beg to differ...
You are correct about the colors, last I knew QBP only had black and maybe a few basic colors but their price is a lot higher than EP and still somewhat higher than KING direct. Enough to justify the shop passing it on. If I recall, QBP charges about 15-20% over KING direct pricing and 25-30% over EP. With KING stuff being so spendy to begin with every dollar saved helps!

Are you talking about employee purchase or MSRP?

 

[punkassean]

Are you talking about employee purchase or MSRP?

I thought I made that part clear

read it again and see if it makes sense maybe I am stoopit

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Not every one can order at EP, and for your info LBS's can only order 1 or 2 pairs of hubs @ EP per year. So I don't know where you get your info from. Shops will get a discount on quanity of product purchased from a distributer or factory direct. But the price difference is fairly close to the same. Trust me I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Sherpa]

I do

I do too. Also, where can you check QBP stock online?

 

[-dustin]

i do most of my ordering through Hammerhead bikes, whose "Full Catalog" is an online QBP catalog that's updated daily. same thing with Alfred E Bikes, and quite a few other online retailers.

 

[Kntr]

"According to QBP website and they have “7 - King ISO Front Disc Hub32h Black” “5 - King ISO 20mm Front Disc Hub 32h Black” “10 - King ISO Rear Disc Hub 32h Black”. Take that for what its worth"

dma528

They have the front I need in 36h black but not the rear. First off I need 36 hole NOT 32. Yes they have the 32 but no 36s. I guess they are out of 36s..... Anyone else have any ideas? Maybe I should just go with XTs everyone has them.

 

[punkassean]

Not every one can order at EP, and for your info LBS's can only order 1 or 2 pairs of hubs @ EP per year. So I don't know where you get your info from. Shops will get a discount on quanity of product purchased from a distributer or factory direct. But the price difference is fairly close to the same. Trust me I know what I'm talking about.

Brian, I have king hubs on my bike and I EP'd them and multiple headsets etc over the years. Shops can EP one set of hubs, and I believe two headsets per employee per year. Of course they can purchase whatever quantity of product for wholesale they like. I managed a shop in Santa Barbara that sold large qty's of KING and dealt with them fairly regularly as well as knowing plenty of people who worked for KING when they were still in SB. I also ordered from QBP bi-weekly and there prices are at least 10% more than KING's wholesale (not EP), which adds up to around $30 additional for a hubset to the consumer.

I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here but I too am fairly familiar with KING's pricing.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Brian, I have king hubs on my bike and I EP'd them and multiple headsets etc over the years. Shops can EP one set of hubs, and I believe two headsets per employee per year. Of course they can purchase whatever quantity of product for wholesale they like. I managed a shop in Santa Barbara that sold large qty's of KING and dealt with them fairly regularly as well as knowing plenty of people who worked for KING when they were still in SB. I also ordered from QBP bi-weekly and there prices are at least 10% more than KING's wholesale (not EP), which adds up to around $30 additional for a hubset to the consumer.

I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here but I too am fairly familiar with KING's pricing.

You don't get it, shops are around to make $ and usally won't give much of a difference if it costs the shop $300 or $150, its all about making a profit. If someone is a REAL good customer they will probably give a bigger break on the price than someone off the street. Of course you'll get a better deal for yourself direct from any manufacture, and EP makes it even nicer, but for your avarage person looking to buy something most of the time they're not going to see that deal.

 

[punkassean]

Brian,
I do get the gist of what you are saying but I am assuming he (Kanter) has a normal relationship (non-hookup) with his LBS. You're argument is illogical, first you say that shops are here to make money and in the next sentence you say that they will give him a deal? If they gave him a deal they would lose money? My whole point is that if the shop were to apply an industry standard margin to the wholesale price, then a lower wholesale price equals a lower retail price. I am very familiar with the workings of bike shops, that's what you don't seem to get. That's all I am trying to convey.

I am really not trying to argue with you but I think we basically just need to agree to disagree on this one because this is getting silly, in about three more posts it will come to :nuts:

And that's no bueno

You don't get it, shops are around to make $ and usally won't give much of a difference if it costs the shop $300 or $150, its all about making a profit. If someone is a REAL good customer they will probably give a bigger break on the price than someone off the street. Of course you'll get a better deal for yourself direct from any manufacture, and EP makes it even nicer, but for your avarage person looking to buy something most of the time they're not going to see that deal.

 

[Kntr]

I am getting a screaming deal actually