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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by TheMontashu, Oct 2, 2005.

  1. TheMontashu

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  2. Bulldog

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    I'll pass.
     
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  3. Sir Happypants

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    cool idea i guesse, if it was on a better frame design
     
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    looks... ahem... bad.
     
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    Fuglyness.
     
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    Bring you wallet. Looks like a klein idea also. Plus I am not sure about aggresive freeriding on that.
     
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    It's the Maverick frame design.
     
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  8. Rik

    Rik Turbo Monkey

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    What makes titanium special for a dual suspension bike?
    It's as bad as cromo duallies that have "real steel feel" :rolleyes:
     
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    The sad part is that it's only half titanium. Full titanium suspension bikes are extremely rare.
     
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  10. TheMontashu

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    Its tie because it is all costom geo and that would be to hard for them to do in an AL bike, as well its lighter than steel
     
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    it's because titanium is what they do at seven. :rolleyes:
     
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    ohio The Fresno Kid

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    Not really sure what all the whinging is about. Ti will make it strong and light. Maybe the price tag isn't your cup of tea, but I'm willing to bet is a pretty solid ride. The shorter travel bikes based on the Maverick rear were great. Seven has some of the best craftsmen in the business. I'm pretty sure this will compete well with long travel trail bikes (not freeride) like the Id.
     
  13. TheMontashu

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    Ti also does a full carbon bike and steel as well as a cromo carbon and ti carbon mix. So ti is not necisaraly "what they do" at seven, although the bulk of what they do if for the reasons i stated above
     
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    Remember when URTs were cool? I don't.
     
  15. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Remember when that suspension design was a URT? I don't.
     
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    ok, whatever, it's a urt with another pivot. Or an I drive with no dogbone. It's a half urt. A HURT.

    Proprietary shocks are dumb anyways.
     
  17. spincrazy

    spincrazy I love to climb

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    Ugly and looks like it works as well as it looks. Shock boot?
     
  18. Rik

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    Especially ones that do things that shocks aren't really meant to do, such as taking twisting and side loading.
     
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    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    dont worry, it's not a shock, but rather a STRUT. Cars have 'em, planes have em.....uhh your FORK is basically one. Struts are designed to take such loading, thats why the arent coil-overs.
     
  20. MikeD

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    It's got seven pieces of flair!!

    "Freeride flair," to be exact. They should call it the "Tschotschke!"
     
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    MikeD Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists

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    Yeah, because welding Ti is so much easier than welding Al...
     
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    zedro Turbo Monkey

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    no no no....it's because Al gets cranky when you keep changing it's geometry; Ti is more mature and embraces diversity....
     
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    Doesn't the Santa Cruz Heckler weigh 6.5# for much less !

    Well, the SEVEN is another option for the high-rollas....
     
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    True, I thought about that but I'm sure the rear end would experience alot more hell than a fork ever would, and secondly a strut in the applications mentioned can take such loads, but given the design constraints of a bicycle (weight + cost being major factors), would anything have been compromised in the design that could lead to durability/longevity issues?
    Thirdly, as mentioned... regardless of the above (I'm probably wrong anyway) proprietry parts = :nopity:
     
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    well just look at the lefty, and just think of all of the front line work the fork has to do. In this case the strut is handeling the longitudinal forces almost exclusively; the lower linkage handles most of the lateral. But its all pretty moot since the bike is only built for a certain level of abuse, but a properly designed strut would work fine in a DH application even

    And since the strut is a structural member, i wouldnt even call it proprietary part. It would be like complaining the rear swingarm is proprietary too
     
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    Call me next time you service or revalve your swingarm.
     
  27. DHS

    DHS Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

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    ive seen 2 of the seven's in person. sure looked cool. both times the owners were morans, no idea what they were doing.
    i HATE that suspension design. having your bb on the swing arm, F-that
     
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    Those bikes actually ride really nice (well the klein version I rode did). I think the rear axle path is supposed to be similar to the front.
    Its designed by Paul Turner.
    In reviews it has been stated that it is the best climbing bike out there.
     
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    Um yeah and you know like a DW link is just like a single pivot with more pivots... :rolleyes:

    No soup for you!!
     
  30. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    ...aannd the BB is still not on the swingarm. Ain't nothing you or anyone else can say that's gonna change it :p
     
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    how will i reach you inside that box?
     
  32. Tashi

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    I think that that's 'cause of the flexiness of ti. I don't think that many susmension designs function too well if the parts are flexing, so it's not a great choice for the rear end of a suspension bike that has any pivots.

    For all the haters out there: Anyone I know who's ridden and/or owned a Maverick fork or frame (like the Klein mentioned or this Seven) loves 'em, even the ones that have the bike skills to match their pocketbooks.

    But hey, I guess it looks bad in comparison to all the carbon-copy Al bikes out there. :rolleyes:
     
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    still apart of it and moves. i don't want my feet moving with the swing arm, if i wanted a hard tail i'd buy one.
     
  34. MikeD

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    Ever tried to get parts or service in Australia?

    Just a matter of priorities for different places/people. Good on Maverick for doing something new, IMHO...but no way I'd own one unless I lived in the US or Canada, preferably the Western part.

    Then again, I wonder if it'd really be that hard to get the innards of the strut revalved or rebuilt in Oz...lots of smart folks doing suspension tuning down there, no? Are the parts compatible with the standard Fox Vanilla parts?

    MD
     
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    So does the front triangle use straight gage or butted tubing? Why not use Ti 6-4 instead of Ti 3-2.5 it's just more money?

    Bikes like this are for guys who work too much and ride too little anyway, I could care less where the BB is or who is going to service the shock.
     
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    The shock is produced by fox. Ay fox service dealer can tune/fix the unit.

    Its no harder to get worked on than a DHX or Vanilla
     
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    There was a semi-pro guy in Seattle that had a Ti DH bike made by Ti Cycles... never really caught on..... maybe it was his pony tail....
     
  38. MikeD

    MikeD Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists

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    I always liked the idea of the Litespeed Kitsuma, myself...maybe the geometry could have used a tweak or two...but a Ti hardtail would be cool for FR stuff.

    MD
     
  39. TheMontashu

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    I have riddin around the klien on a trail as well as a mavrick. I have bounced around in a parking lot on a duo and a duo-lux (and 5 or 6 othern7s) for that matter.
    Paul Turner owns maverick, the idea behind the linkage I think is realy cool
     
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    everyone whos hating on the suspension design is smoking crack. my dad has a maveric with the maveric fork and that bike is a goat and the fork feels a lot like my old dorado. when you point that bike downhill it just plain rips like a freeride bike (and this is the 4inch one)