nah, the bike wouldn't have been started yet. and golgi would have already PIF.
Custom ti frame build has begun.
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We don't know it's been started.
but he at least has an engineering drawing of the frame. hodges designs bikes with finger paint in his dad's garage.
I said originally that if they missed their projected delivery date by a week I'd cancel the order, but this frame is probably worth a bit of flexibility.What would you guys say is a reasonable amount of time before I pull the plug?
2 months ago?
you were warned in advance that this company has a tendency to miss delivery dates by months. you chose to ignore that advice. you're on your own now.
Oh, and....
#firstworldproblems
#firstworldproblems
I've been on a very popular custom builder's waiting list for a custom steel single speed for well over a year. It's finally built, powder coated, and getting a custom paint job this week. I should have it by New Years Day.
I could have canceled the order at any time. So how long you are willing to wait just depends on how much you want the bike.
richard sachs' current wait time is 7 years.
Wow.
And I thought 16 months was bad. How would you even know if you'll still be alive and/or able to ride a bike in 7 years?
It's a pretty safe bet for everyone on here other than maybe JBP.
crazy right? last i was aware he wasn't accepting new customers anymore.
1. It's a custom handmade frame. Anything handmade takes more time than assembly line crap. Be patient.
2. If you have paid a deposit and work has begun, you will most likely forfeit if you cancel. When I take a deposit it is non-refundable and covers my expenses should the client back out. I don't know Dean's policy but suspect it's similar.
Before you ordered it.
I'd at least want to see pics of them working on it for some sort of re-assurance. I would be hard pressed to order a custom build from someone with a less than stellar reputation....especially when you are dropping that kind of coin. For a bicycle.
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I sent him an e-mail last night reminding him of the timeline he quoted me. Just got a message back from him, his goal is to ship out next week. Should have photos soon. Fingers crossed on this, really trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but I'm still skeptical. Will post photos if and when.
golgiaparatus, meet 1st rodeo.
1st rodeo, meet golgiaparatus...
1st rodeo, meet golgiaparatus...
qft.
plus, its only one week over the time allotted. though if he promised to hit a specific date, i can see where you can be upset.
That's true... but with the reputation that they have, I'm already locked and loaded for disappointment. As for the timeline... we did agree on an early December timeline... I based my decision on his word that they'd hit it... and I told him that.
Oh yeah... no deposit. Probably wouldn't have given them the go-ahead if they had wanted half up front or something like that.
Then don't act surprised they're a week behind and contemplate cancelling the order.
then there is a seriously good chance that they haven't thought about starting to make your frame...
With everyone telling me that these guys jerk people around on timelines, why wouldn't I be thinking that? Besides, I told them up front that if it went too much past the agreed upon date that it'd be an issue.
i've had 4 frames custom built, not one of them was within a month of the estimated time frame. one was even 4 months later...
but as was stated, you will wait for what you really want...
but as was stated, you will wait for what you really want...
Everyone told you all this beforehand.....and it's widely known via everywhere on the interwebtoobz. Did you really think you'd be any different?
Anything past a month and I would tell them to f off..
Not surprised at all... I was wary about it from the beginning and I told the builder about my concerns. But I don't get you telling me not to contemplate canceling the order if it gets too far behind though.
Just because a vendor has a rep doesn't mean they shouldn't be held to their word. It'd be one thing if they were up front and told me that they were running behind. But that never happened... every time I asked he responded with "on schedule".
I'm just saying if you're that impatient/mad enough to want to cancel, I wouldn't have ordered it in the first place given their notoriety for being late. That's all I'm saying.
I was hoping that it would all work out for him regardless of what everyone said would happen. Eventually he will get his bike and perhaps it will be awesome. Just be patient....
Don't be "that guy" and be all optimistic and isht.
I honestly think a month is a reasonable wait time past the agreed date for a custom frame.
My experiences with customs frames are similar with others. I've had 3 done, one came right on time, the other 2 months late, the other 4 months late.
you have to be patient, and since there was no deposit put down, you have nothing to loose
My experiences with customs frames are similar with others. I've had 3 done, one came right on time, the other 2 months late, the other 4 months late.
you have to be patient, and since there was no deposit put down, you have nothing to loose
I guess I don't understand that certain businesses get a bad rap and people still order stuff from them. I guess I just have a hard time patronizing a business I'm not totally on board with. I guess it's not as big of a deal if you didn't pay a deposit, but still. Personally, I wouldnt buy something from a business with a bad rap no matter what they sell. I hope it works out and get your frame though. Sounds like you know exactly what you want.
Customer who wants custom, but not patient enough to wait for it.
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Frame builder with reputation of being slow and does not require a deposit.
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Entitled whitepeopleproblems.
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Frame builder with reputation of being slow and does not require a deposit.
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Entitled whitepeopleproblems.
Funny, I just read a thread written buy a guy that ordered the exact same bike as I did, had the exact same modifications made to the frame... and ended up canceling his order after a long wait time just as his bike had been completed.
I'm going to give John until the last week in December to deliver, then I'm going to cancel the order and promptly have a Moots YBB shipped out. The geometry on their off the shelf large is spot on for me.
I'm going to give John until the last week in December to deliver, then I'm going to cancel the order and promptly have a Moots YBB shipped out. The geometry on their off the shelf large is spot on for me.
B....b....but.......you'll lose that feeling of rich white person superiority of having a custom built frame!
I can probably offset that by adding a custom bottle cage for holding my Grey Poupon.
Don't forget the Ti part. That makes the superiorness taste extra creamy.
Aren't Moots Ti as well though?
Yes, but you have Ti and you have custom. Then you have custom Ti, which is a whole new level of my bike is better than your bike.
I'm going to steal Golgi's frame, melt it down and mold it into a giant dildo. I'll even deliver it before the Dean hits his doorstep.
That being the Golgi apparatus?