[cracked]

Hey...I NEED a new wheel set.

I'm 230 without gear and I keep blowing up my wheels!!

I just destroyed a set of Transitions Revolution 32's and previously a set of Sunrims S-type's



Azonics outlaws?

Mavics?


others??



Be kind!

 

[Nick]

destroyed?

How, exactly ... Smashed rims?

edit: outlaws and revolutions are the same wheel, fyi

 

[ustemuf]

mavic 823's are tough as nails.

 

[gemini2k]

If you are 240, and ride like a hack, you're GOING to destroy rims no matter what. Just buy cheap rims (dual dutys) and spokes in bulk.


Otherwise MTX rims are pretty good. They might dent, but they aren't gonna fold.

 

[BigHitComp04]

I second the 823s. Or go back to 2000 and get some neon green Doublewides =)

 

[Nick]

729s are tougher than 823s, or most other rims for that matter.

 

[ustemuf]

I had 729's before and they definitely are not stronger... they seem a lot softer to be honest, and dent/get flat spots A LOT easier. Your mileage may vary, this was just my experience.

 

[blackohio]

been super stoked on my Canfield Tough's. 3 seasons now and still true and round.

 

[wiscodh]

If you are 240, and ride like a hack, you're GOING to destroy rims no matter what. Just buy cheap rims (dual dutys) and spokes in bulk.


Otherwise MTX rims are pretty good. They might dent, but they aren't gonna fold.

Folded an mtx in 3 spots 3 cracks and a blown seam. 3 months of use

 

[dhmike]

Easton havoc .

 

[jackalope]

No Mag 30s, no care

 

[ButtersNZ]

I've found my Supra D's (same as Outlaws) to be sturdy. I'm 190 without gear and destroyed my last wheelset over a period of time at the rock garden at my local. I'm faster now, harder on my bike and the Supra's are still looking good after 4 months of abuse.

 

[cracked]

Thanks for the suggestions thus far!

I exploded several spokes. bent the hoop and flattened part of it on the Revo's

on the SR's I exploded some spokes and cracked the hoop clean through in 2 sections ( not at the weld)

I'm hackish in that I plow and I'm a clydesdale!


so was that thumbs up for the outlaws?

 

[gemini2k]

I'm hackish in that I plow and I'm a clydesdale!

Yeah, just get dual dutys and deal with new rims often. Nothing is going to hold up well for you. If you want to buy a boatload of spokes in bulk, pm me.

 

[thad]

Outlaws and Transition wheels are essentially the same thing. The rims are soft and dent easily. They are inexpensive.

MTX is a bit stonger.

729 bit stronger still.

Mag 30 or Arrow rims if you want indestructo wheel, but they aren't light.. And you'll just break spokes and hub flanges instead of rims.

If have run 729s for over 10 years. I always get "bored" of the mavic, and try something new (generally because it's a fancy color), kill it with a quickness, and go back to trusty 729.

 

[gemini2k]

I don't think you can buy mag 30's anymore. Sun makes some super burly MTX 33 or something that is basically a replica of it.

 

[Sandwich]

Sounds like a wheel build issue to me. 3x 36 spoke 2.0 stainless brass and good tension should keep you rolling....not machine built wheels. M y outlaws were loose in the caboose after a season. My guess is yours did too but you trashed them.

 

[jackalope]

Time for angelic combat

http://m.ebay.com/itm/360505439361

 

[Lelandjt]

I need the strongest wheels possible and since I'm heavy, weight isn't a concern.

I've got the perfect front wheel for you:
Hadley hub- The most durable
36 straight gauge spokes and brass nipples- The strongest stuff and 4 extra for good measure
Intense Mag30 rim- Unquestionably the strongest rim ever made

I got this when I started DHing to be sure I wouldn't break my wheel but it's way overkill for my weight and riding style, or most people's for that matter. So, it's your's for $150 shipped. It's in new condition. PM me if you're interested.

For the rear do the same thing. The Mag30 rim was more recently sold as the Sun Doubletrack and then replaced by the MTX39. Lace it with 36 spokes to a quality hub.

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

Another vote for 823's. I have a set laced to 36 spoke Hadley's that have been going for way too long. 7 years IIRC. I can't even true them any more (they don't really need it actually) cause the nipples have seized to the spokes...

Easton havoc .

MAYBE, the old ones.

Not the new ones...

 

[norbar]

823's if you destroy them the only thing left is tag wheels.

 

[no skid marks]

I second the 823s. Or go back to 2000 and get some neon green Doublewides =)

823s or Atom Lab Pimp lites are good. MTX good but dent. This is from my experience. Alex from what I've heard.
MAG30/Double wides for sure if you can find them.

729s are tougher than 823s, or most other rims for that matter.

Definatley not from my experience. They are pretty tough, but do dent easier, and not as tacho proof as 823s.

I had 729's before and they definitely are not stronger... they seem a lot softer to be honest, and dent/get flat spots A LOT easier. Your mileage may vary, this was just my experience.

Agreed.

 

[Electric_City]

How I wish WTB still made the Laserdisc DH... My Sun MTX rims barely made it through one season. 22 dents in the back and I forget how many up front(not as many). Same tires and psi on the WTB's with no dents or dings. 5 years old. I'm not light either.

 

[bizutch]

MTX 31's on Industry Nine wheels. They'll stay true as crap, the rim will get lots of dents, dings and bangs in it and your wheels will always stay true.

Then swap it out every few months. MTX rims are "softer" at the bead and it helps rims from splitting. As long as you keep them tensioned, the MTX stays round and wobble free. Bending a dent in them back iwth the crescent wrench keeps you from pinch flatting and helps them last a little longer.

Replacing an MTX every few months beats waiting to not ride for a warrantied Mavic 823 or suffering with a set of crappy hubbed Outlaws, long waits for replacements on both are trumped by spending your time riding an MTX...or it's replacement.

 

[Sandwich]

http://www.bikeparts.com/search_results.asp?id=BPC102042

in stock? maybe

 

[amishmatt]

MTX rims are "softer" at the bead and it helps rims from splitting. As long as you keep them tensioned, the MTX stays round and wobble free. Bending a dent in them back iwth the crescent wrench cracks the rim, in the unlikely event it wasn't cracked already.

Edited to reflect my experience. That said, I keep buying them because they're so cheap, and I'm running to run a bit more PSI to keep from destroying them so quickly.

 

[slyfink]

anyone have experience with Spank rims? I don't, but I'm curious.

 

[Tomasz]

They're great, very solid, probably the best value anywhere.

Can't speak to 200lb+ riders, but I suspect they'd hold up as well as most anything else out there.

 

[JimLad]

Moar pressurez.

Every rim dents if it hits rock. Apart from 721s those crack

 

[Verskis]

Every rim dents if it hits rock. Apart from 721s those crack

I wouldn't say so, my 721 has closer to 20 dents but zero cracks.

 

[daisycutter]

I will give the same answear I always give for 10 years plus.

Hadley hubs Front and Rear
Mavic 729 or 823 rims if your a tubeless man
Keep 25 plus PSI

 

[kazlx]

Hadley/823.

Do yourself a favor. Don't buy machine built wheels. They won't last.

 

[teamkranzelbike]

I Have weighed as much as 320# and now down to 260# All fat. I have been on 823's on Hope hubs with Triple Butted DT spokes since 2004 or so. I have never had a failure. I am a bit of a hack, don't jump, and plow everything. I have been building my own wheels since I began riding. I run at high tension with tubless minions @ 32# front and rear.I usually true up in the middle of the season, but check before every weekend to make sure all is ok. I get a good 2 seasons out of the rear and 3 out of the front riding almost every weekend from May to Oct..

 

[blackohio]

east coast rox and Clydesdales dont mix well. Move to oregon. problem solved.

 

[wiscodh]

east coast rox and Clydesdales dont mix well. Move to oregon. problem solved.

take your own advice dr. phill

 

[cracked]

east coast rox and Clydesdales dont mix well. Move to oregon. problem solved.

TRUTH!!!!


THANKS for all the input!!

I got a good deal on Azonic outlaws!

I run 32 psi F&R on DHR/DHF combo

I check the tension before every ride day and i check the rims themselves several times a season!

I'm ok with dents. but not fractures or wobbles!

I hope the outlaws hold up!

I'll post back when I run this weekend!!

 

[ButtersNZ]

Good choice and good luck

 

[nmpearson]

anyone have experience with Spank rims? I don't, but I'm curious.

exactly what i was going to recommend. I just ordered e13 hubs and subrosa 30 rims. I'm 230 without gear and not the smoothest rider and the subrosa 30 evo's have been great. the spike 35, i've heard are even stiffer!

I went with the e13 hubs though bc it just makes the wheel so stiff

 

[kazlx]

Also, you don't exactly need straight gauge spokes, although they might be cheaper....but they aren't really any stronger.

 

[blindboxx2334]

^ interesting..

had to google myself, since i always build with regular spokes to save money. ended up on sheldon brown, and what do you know?! learn something new every day

edit:
i ended up scrolling down on the same page and also learned that they make spoke washers (for thin flanged hubs).. crazy. learned 2 new things today!