Pretty much every weekend the whole Turner DHR and FR fleet was booked/rented out. Granted Vernon is open all week, so the builds they rent get a bit more use, I don't own a turner but i have yet to see any frame snaps on any rental. I really cant blame Vernon for picking up this company ,I'm sure the bikes will get better.(just don't want to see anyone get knackered)but they are twice or three times as old....i guess Turner makes a better bike than Jamis...who woulda thought