coward.Old Man G Funk said:
Doesn't this kinda violate the separation between Church and State?
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Burly, I was wrong about one thing. You are funny. Just not in the way that you intend.BurlyShirley said:
So, you are going to resort to the rubber/glue retort. That is so third grade. Should I retort with "Na na na na na na?"
He doesn't hate Christians,BurlyShirley said:
he does have issues with Zoroastrians.
and Scientologists.
"She's got the look!"Old Man G Funk said:
Nope none of those are insults. So where did I insult you?Old Man G Funk said:
It'd be about as effective as your usual debating skills.Old Man G Funk said:
As opposed to yours? Cowardly assertion with no data to back it up?BurlyShirley said:
Care to explain why I shouldn't take those as insults?DRB said:
Care to explain why you should?Old Man G Funk said:
Sure.DRB said:
Comparing me to N8 and Burly should be considered an insult in this instance. They are using infantile tactics to smear me while I am defending myself.
Patronization is generally always seen as an insult.
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I like N8 and Burly so comparing you to them is not an insult.Old Man G Funk said:
How do you know I'm patronizing you? Are you psychic?Old Man G Funk said:
As for patronization, if someone was to partonize some group, I could view that as an insult to that group?
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It's not about personal like or dislike. They might be great guys off the internets, but that's not what you did. You compared me to them and their argumentation style. You insulted my intelligence and my person with the comparison. If that was not your intent, then I will take no offense.DRB said:
As for patronizing me, first I don't mean it as "to be a patron." Second, does it really take a psychic to discern your meaning? C'mon.
So you see then why my inferring that you hate christians is completely valid.Old Man G Funk said:
Any insult you took from that is due to your interpretation of my statement.Old Man G Funk said:
So its possible to discern implicit meaning from posts without being psychic?Old Man G Funk said:
And back to the important question you didn't answer:
No, because you can't even point to a single statement that backs your claim. Coward.BurlyShirley said:So you see then why my inferring that you hate christians is completely valid.
I did answer that question. I figured you were trying to be funny and using the definition of patronize as in to be a patron. Yes, generally when you patronize someone it is meant to be insulting.DRB said:
As for not being psychic, I do have reading comprehension skills. What you said was meant to be insulting and the fact that you deny it now does not look good for you. Be a man. Admit it.
I also see that you are resorting to the, "I said what I said and it's your problem if you took offense to it," tack in regards to the first. I said point blank that you just had to tell me that I was mistaken, and you did not do that. Why not?
so many words to say nothing at all!!!
I find your use of Xtians patronizing.Old Man G Funk said:
Any insult you took from that is due to your interpretation of my statement.Old Man G Funk said:
Lots of what you say is meant to be insulting to Christians and the fact that you deny it now does not look good for you. Be a man. Admit it.
How so? If it is indeed insulting, then I will stop using it. I've had other Christians tell me that they don't mind, but if you don't like it, I won't use it.DRB said:
Example?
I think what he was orginally getting at overall is Theocracy=Death
The problems associated with a national religion or lack there of is the issue here. As to forcing religion, we have a president who comes from a born-again group that comes and knocks on your door. There is obvious bias in our government towards christians and christians. Who are they to say whos right and whos wrong. Fanatics ruin the world. Look at israel that was attacked by lebanon today, and surly they will have some strike back. The cause is religious dissent in the middle east, ALWAYS. Everyone's looking for a scapegoat, the blame lies on the emphasis in one belief. Im not religious, but I believe that religion, like anything else, should be taken in moderation and on a sane level. My gf is a jew and is over in Israel and I worry eevryday because of their damn zionist group taht sends them over there to spend 6 weeks in a warzone (basically).
Im confused and pissed off and generally distraught because she called me this morning bc of this incident in tears. What I hate is bull**** liek this that happens.
Religion in moderation, religion out of the government.
The problems associated with a national religion or lack there of is the issue here. As to forcing religion, we have a president who comes from a born-again group that comes and knocks on your door. There is obvious bias in our government towards christians and christians. Who are they to say whos right and whos wrong. Fanatics ruin the world. Look at israel that was attacked by lebanon today, and surly they will have some strike back. The cause is religious dissent in the middle east, ALWAYS. Everyone's looking for a scapegoat, the blame lies on the emphasis in one belief. Im not religious, but I believe that religion, like anything else, should be taken in moderation and on a sane level. My gf is a jew and is over in Israel and I worry eevryday because of their damn zionist group taht sends them over there to spend 6 weeks in a warzone (basically).
Im confused and pissed off and generally distraught because she called me this morning bc of this incident in tears. What I hate is bull**** liek this that happens.
Religion in moderation, religion out of the government.
Old Man G Funk said:
"I don't hate christanity... some of my best friends are christians" -OMGF
did justsomeguy ever trademark that phrase? because if he did, he could swap out his 911 for an enzo soon.BurlyShirley said:
This started out as an interesting discussion, but the p*ssing match is too much for me
If it's what he meant, they why didn't he write it. Religion is woven thru our Gov. since the begining.
That's the most articulate argument I have ever seen in this forum. Well done. Don't you have a sword to sharpen or something?Ciaran said:Waaaahhhh.... Some christians are in my building and they arte PRAYING! OMG! Waaahhhh!
Get over it.
OMGF. Dude, this thing really pisses me off "Xtians". 1) I think it is disrespectful, 2) Every time I see it I think of Scientology, TomKat, and Xenu the alien, it totally derails my train of thought.
As far as burly, N8 and DRB, I believe they bring up a valid point, your behaviour and stance on issues concerning Christianity coupled with the zeal you exibit while debating said topic imply a generally anti Christian position. Not to be confused with the missionary position.
While you may not blatantly attack Christians or their mythology, you seem to take a consistently antagonistic approach to them. Juxtapose that with your position on issues like chocolate chip pancakes your dislike of Christians becomes obvious.
As far as burly, N8 and DRB, I believe they bring up a valid point, your behaviour and stance on issues concerning Christianity coupled with the zeal you exibit while debating said topic imply a generally anti Christian position. Not to be confused with the missionary position.
While you may not blatantly attack Christians or their mythology, you seem to take a consistently antagonistic approach to them. Juxtapose that with your position on issues like chocolate chip pancakes your dislike of Christians becomes obvious.
I think religion will be straw that breaks humanities back. Christianity is a right behind Islam in terms of encouraging the self centered, intolerant behavior that imperils global society. You need it said any clearer than that?noname said:
like communism, sociallism etc........BeerDemon said:
People will latch onto a belief structure of one sort or another. Believe it or not I actually believe that religion has far less pull on global society now than it did one hundred years ago. It seems to have more sway now partly because we have instant news coverage and partly because a majority of the conflicts people are engaged in seem to have a religious component to at least one side. Odd how that currently seems to be Islam.
As far as being self centered, selfishness has it's virtues. Even people who boast of being altruistic due it to make themselves feel good.
True altruism is antagonist to the natural state of things, but go ahead, be altruistic and send me all your money, cause you know I need it and all............
I always have seen "Xtians" on the internets used as a shorthand notation. I'm not sure why it is disrespectful, it is simply an abbreviation.noname said:
Now, please don't go down the road that those others have. Don't equate anti-Christianity with anti-Christians. I am anti-Christianity. I dislike the faith. If I liked it, I would be a follower, would I not? Instead, I see many things wrong with it, and for that I will not apologize. That is quite a different thing, however, from being anti-Christian. Attacking a belief system is not the same thing as attacking the person.
Why?Changleen said:
Whilst I know where you are coming from (and I myself think that belief in God is irrational), if you are saying that belief in something that you have no concrete evidence for is delusional then we are all in trouble. We take many things on faith because we think we see evidence of them, but we actually see what we are told is evidence of them.
You're not stupid but what you believe in is stupid.Old Man G Funk said:
Not what I said. Nice strawman.DRB said:You're not stupid but what you believe in is stupid.
Sure it is. I'd say that most Christians would find it hard to separate criticism of their faith as not being criticism of them.Old Man G Funk said:
Now I'm sure you can make yourself feel good by saying that's their problem and not yours but it doesn't change the fact.
So, you admit that it isn't a logical error on my part, but on theirs. Yet, somehow it is still my fault. Nice one.DRB said:
Edit: I.E. you admit that you just made a strawman, but blame me anyway.
I thought you said that you had reading comprehension skills? I guess not.Old Man G Funk said:
No I think that you hold Christianity and those that believe in it in general contempt. You'll say you can separate the two but Christians will say that you can't.
So, Christians designate what I am able to do?DRB said:
Actually, what you said was that Christians would find it hard to separate criticism of their religion from criticism of themselves. That does not mean that the two are equal, however. The problem isn't so much reading comprehension as unclear writing it seems. If you meant that it does make the two equal, then you should have said that. Of course, then I would simply say that you are wrong, unless you could prove to me that Chrisianity = Christian.