This frame was used for only 4 weeks and is in perfect condition. I am selling the frame with fork, seat post, stem and saddle, the stem and saddle are only available with this frame and its from rock racing and you will be the only one with this components (not available to the public), the frame is 54 with a 55 top tube.
Did a guy by the name of Ben call you up?
It's good news. Money from a douche-bag designed to douche-bag up the image of pro cycling is bad. Employing un-repentant convicts is bad. Cadilliacs are bad. Institutionalized doping is bad. $300 jeans (and the people who buy them) are bad. Intentional arrogance, Self-aggrandizement and anti-intellectualism for the sake of petty spectacle is bad. Ignoring contracts with riders, sponsors and race promoters is bad.not really good news....cycling has been bleeding sponsors and if Rock goes it will be that many more unemployed cyclist and that much less money for pro riders
who are you to judge anyone anyway?It's good news. Money from a douche-bag designed to douche-bag up the image of pro cycling is bad. Employing un-repentant convicts is bad. Cadilliacs are bad. Institutionalized doping is bad. $300 jeans (and the people who buy them) are bad. Intentional arrogance, Self-aggrandizement and anti-intellectualism for the sake of petty spectacle is bad. Ignoring contracts with riders, sponsors and race promoters is bad.
I don't like Ball, but I also don't like WADA, UCI, or USAC. I'm glad there is someone who is willing to give the finger to those organizations. I do not like that he is complacent in doping, and unfortunately a lot of teams areIt's good news. Money from a douche-bag designed to douche-bag up the image of pro cycling is bad. Employing un-repentant convicts is bad. Cadilliacs are bad. Institutionalized doping is bad. $300 jeans (and the people who buy them) are bad. Intentional arrogance, Self-aggrandizement and anti-intellectualism for the sake of petty spectacle is bad. Ignoring contracts with riders, sponsors and race promoters is bad.
Flagrantly ignoring the rules of the UCI, WADA, USAC and common decency, all bad.
It does affect SD because he is in the bike industryMichael Ball is living the American dream why is any of your concern how he makes his money or what he spends it on?
Well, if you race or a fan of racing, it does matter.who are you to judge anyone anyway?
Michael Ball is living the American dream why is any of your concern how he makes his money or what he spends it on?
you sure are upset about something that has nothing to do with you.
Who am I to judge? I am an educated, rational human being who makes his living making and selling bicycles. From before I was a teeanger, it's the only line of work, passion and toil that I have known.who are you to judge anyone anyway?
Michael Ball is living the American dream why is any of your concern how he makes his money or what he spends it on?
you sure are upset about something that has nothing to do with you.
Seriously....?If his version of the "american dream" appeals to you, i suggest you are the worst kind of person, if you are in fact human, and that I lay blame squarely on your shoulders for the sorry state of the world...
too small for me, i need a 58cm. plus i would prefer the DeRosa, i'm not a huge fan of Pinarello lately.just for you maddog, a Prince for the Rock team
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Wow first it was George W. Bush to blame for everything now it's jean designer Michael Ball who is responsible for sorry state of the world fascinating...If his version of the "american dream" appeals to you, i suggest you are the worst kind of person, if you are in fact human, and that I lay blame squarely on your shoulders for the sorry state of the world...
I don't give a crap about the fanciness. I care about the attitude towards drug use, and Ball's was, lets get the cheaters.Wow first it was George W. Bush to blame for everything now it's jean designer Michael Ball who is responsible for sorry state of the world fascinating...
For someone who "claims" to be in the bike industry your cutting off your nose to spite your face by wishing an industry supporter / sponsor ill will and hoping he goes out of business sorry but your savior Barack Hussein Obama isn't going to bail out the bicycle industry so your going to need all the dollars you can get no matter where they come from.
I get it that you don't like Michael Ball's attitude or cocky persona so how exactly is that affecting you personally other than you can't stand confident self made men like Michael Ball.
In the uptight and elitist world of road racing rock racing upsets the apple cart with an in your face brash attitude by showing up with an huge entourage in Bentleys, Lamborghinis and special race day team kits with an over the top self assurance and I say RIGHT ON!
If you don't like it cheer for one of the more politically correct teams that don't offend your sensitivities.
the team he fields, as far as the UCI is concerned, are all eligible to race. whether they cheated in the past shouldn't matter because the ruling body has suspended them, they did their time and are now allowed to race again. now, if they get caught, that's still on them not necessarily Ball. the team dr's can say to the riders " here you need to take this or get this shot" but in the end it's the riders responsibility to say no. i don't think they're putting guns to their heads and forcing them to do something illegal. it's the riders to speak up for themselves. if they get fired, then they can take legal action or go the media route and out those who are keeping doping alive in the pro peleton. Ball is an in your face type of guy in an industry where you need to be, not cycling but clothing. without his attitude, he wouldn't be where he is. i like what he's doing to an extent. i think that him standing up to everyone is admirable and hiring guys who have been caught doping in the past is also admirable. if he runs a clean team, like say Garmin Chipotle, then how can you complain if the riders who were guilty once are now riding clean and staying that way? the whole Cadi thing goes with his attitude, right or wrong, it's part of his marketing. look at the team kits, they are kick ass without a doubt!!! SD may have more inside info on some things, but i don't and i can only comment on what i see.Well, if you race or a fan of racing, it does matter.
I don't care if Michael Ball hires a bunch of drugged-up employees, but when he fields a team of cheaters, it does affect a sport I participate in.
Dead serious.Seriously....?
Get a grip.
KAPOW!!Who am I to judge? I am an educated, rational human being who makes his living making and selling bicycles. From before I was a teeanger, it's the only line of work, passion and toil that I have known....
In the uptight and elitist world of road racing rock racing upsets the apple cart with an in your face brash attitude by showing up with an huge entourage in Bentleys, Lamborghinis and special race day team kits with an over the top self assurance and I say RIGHT ON!
I don't think that was his attitudeI don't give a crap about the fanciness. I care about the attitude towards drug use, and Ball's was, lets get the cheaters.
WTF?I want his culture out of my sport.
Bill, take your crap back to where you can keep chasing your tail in circles or you can ride.my.monkey if you keep it up.WTF?
you mean MY sport
perhaps you need to look around and face reality because it's those very same rich pricks you seem have such disgust and seething jealousy for that keep Sacha White and Lew Racing in business.
It's folks like me and MY SPORT that keep you employed in the bike industry because with out us no Colnago C50's would be sold and no $4000 SRM's powermeters would be purchased and every boutique framebuilder in this country would be standing around with their dicks in their hand because some 28 year old tattooed slacker blogger wannabe douchbag isn't going to go out and work hard enough to buy these things.
It's pretty clear to everyone reading this thread that you are incapable of rational thought because the same people that have such contempt for are the very people that keep this sport alive and race teams employed.
Bike racing existed before you cared. It will continue to exist afterwards.WTF?
you mean MY sport
Well, I'm more one to strive for moderation in ideologies...Dead serious.
Your're a religious man. You should understand culture war.
Bike racers are my tribe.
These men are infidels, and I am a bike culture evangelical.
I want his culture out of my sport. Far, far, far away from it.
Rich folks with small sex organs and poor taste already have the whole world at their fingertips, I want my sport back.
Might it be more helpful to explain your ideas carefully than shout and insult people you don't know?
From what I can tell Mr. Bill, not many folks on this site can claim to have rational thoughts.WTF?
you mean MY sport
perhaps you need to look around and face reality because it's those very same rich pricks you seem have such disgust and seething jealousy for that keep Sacha White and Lew Racing in business.
It's folks like me and MY SPORT that keep you employed in the bike industry because with out us no Colnago C50's would be sold and no $4000 SRM's powermeters would be purchased and every boutique framebuilder in this country would be standing around with their dicks in their hand because some 28 year old tattooed slacker blogger wannabe douchbag isn't going to go out and work hard enough to buy these things.
It's pretty clear to everyone reading this thread that you are incapable of rational thought because the same people that have such contempt for are the very people that keep this sport alive and race teams employed.
= Win (as in you are correct, not that Rock wins)Bawdy flash with no substance. Short-term personal gain with no regard for immediate harm or long-term impact. The American Dream, right?
This is the first time I've seen you accept who you really are.it's impossible to have a rational discuss with an irrational person.
good point, i forgot to put that in my post. don't forget getting Cipo to show his face at a couple of events for the wow factor.I don't think that was his attitude
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I suspect he figured he get world class athletes for low pay because they were former dopers and no one would touch them. I bet he picked up Tyler for a tenth what he was making
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Very convenient way of dodging some of the legitimate arguments that have been made here. As I said above, I disagree that we should automatically accept anyone who wants to throw money in the ring. So I also disagree that anyone who does so is above criticism and that the only proper response is to start your own team. It is probably true that Ball doesn't care what we think, but that doesn't mean we aren't allowed to discuss his team and our opinions. Anyway, you can continue to escalate the argument or you can engage in a reasoned debate...the choice is yours...either step up to the plate and quit complaining about how others run their team in the cycling industry or STFU.
the choice is yours...
There is really no reason to respond to Kitty as he will just continue to escalate as his opinion is the only one that could possibly be true.Anyway, you can continue to escalate the argument or you can engage in a reasoned debate...the choice is yours...