Well my new sponser told me to start thinking about what i want put on my bike he's going to give me everything at cost plus a little for his time building my frame. I think I'm going witha steel frame but not sure yet anyways. Cane Creek is one of the sponsers and White Brother shocks are almost for sure. I want XTR shifting don't really want XTR cassets and crankset. Well i do but it depends on pricing. Should I go with V's or disk brakes? I can't decide the added benifit of braking in wet weather is good but you still see alot of pros using V's what would the weight differnce be? Whats your opinion?
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opinions vary on the disc, i'm still using V's b/c i don't see anything wrong w/ them. what i would do is have the V mounts put on the bike and have him weld/braze the disc mounts on as well. might as well go w/ whatever your sponsors stuff might be. Cane Creek wheels are nice, espically the Ti spoked ones. the xtr stuff is nice, espically the cranks, if anything get xtr cranks no matter if you decide to run sram or whatever. white bro's make some nice shocks, will feel a lot different then the left does though, i'll tell ya that now......
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Brakes-
Avid single digit ti - 322g for pair
Formula B4 SL - 631g front+rear: incl. IS calipers, 160/140 mm rotors, all mounting bolts, averaged (630/632) and 784g front+rear: incl. IS calipers, 185/160 mm rotors, all bolts
Levers-
Avid sped dial ultimate - 155g pair
Sram 9.0 - 156g pair
Steinbach micro v- 66g pair (average)
Formula B4 SL lever - weight im not sure... weighs alot more than v-brake lever for sure.
Brakes-
Avid single digit ti - 322g for pair
Formula B4 SL - 631g front+rear: incl. IS calipers, 160/140 mm rotors, all mounting bolts, averaged (630/632) and 784g front+rear: incl. IS calipers, 185/160 mm rotors, all bolts
Levers-
Avid sped dial ultimate - 155g pair
Sram 9.0 - 156g pair
Steinbach micro v- 66g pair (average)
Formula B4 SL lever - weight im not sure... weighs alot more than v-brake lever for sure.
yeah, I thought the best part of the new XTR is the crankset ?
i would recommend the new XTR crankset if you've got the juice, if not, XT or Raceface would be plenty nice. As for disc brakes, look at the New XTR discs, they're pretty hot. you can either get the XTR wheels that are UST, lighter than Crossmax SL's, and just as stiff, or use the hubs to build any wheel you want, or just buy them in the 6-bolt pattern. They're lighter than any other disc system and even though they have half as many pistons, the one-piece forged body makes them have only 6% less power than the much heavier XT brakes.
I would feel a Marzocchi Marathon SL fork before you go with White Brothers. I think that the Marz is even a bit cheaper than the top of the line White Bros shocks, and much better feeling in my opinion.
I would feel a Marzocchi Marathon SL fork before you go with White Brothers. I think that the Marz is even a bit cheaper than the top of the line White Bros shocks, and much better feeling in my opinion.
All I'll say about brakes is this, if its dry, both rim and disc brakes work well. The disc brakes have no disadvantage if its dry out. If its wet, rim brakes work ****ty. Simple as that. Plus rim brakes are mechnical and will require way more maintenance than hydraulic discs. I think its a no brainer. I predict that rim brakes will disappear from off road bikes in the next few years.
After a season on the new XTR stuff I can say no problems whith the shifting at all. In fact, it works better than any other system I've used and I've used pretty much all of them since 1983. I did go through one bb bearing in 4 months and it was warranteed.
After a season on the new XTR stuff I can say no problems whith the shifting at all. In fact, it works better than any other system I've used and I've used pretty much all of them since 1983. I did go through one bb bearing in 4 months and it was warranteed.
How about longer wearing pads, and almost no required maintenance? I'll never go back to V's, and I'm in a dry climate.
I will never have a mountain bike with v-brakes again. Last ride I did with v's......well......Westy could tell you some of the words I used on that ride.
Now if I could figure out a way to get discs on my 24" BMX......:
I agree. On really long descents my hands thank me too.
Actually, it turns out the XTR cranks may not be up to all the hype. Heidi's mans XTRs wore out a middle ring real fast, and my friend just got some and he says the chainline sucks and he's putting them on Ebay.
Shimano said that there may have been a bad batch. They happily sent Derek a new set. No problems so far.
Dude, honest to Pete you are the only person I have ever heard of that didn't ruin the XTR Ti cassette in a few rides. Must be they mis-labeled an XT
everyone that i know that races on those things never have any problems w/ em and put a shiet load of mileage on emOriginally posted by Echo
Dude, honest to Pete you are the only person I have ever heard of that didn't ruin the XTR Ti cassette in a few rides. Must be they mis-labeled an XT
just for safe measures ~~~
XT cassette.......gots to be one of the most durable pieces of equipment known to man.Originally posted by Echo
Dude, honest to Pete you are the only person I have ever heard of that didn't ruin the XTR Ti cassette in a few rides. Must be they mis-labeled an XT
You and your little 43 lb. racer friends can run all the lightweight crap y'all want to.Originally posted by indieboy
everyone that i know that races on those things never have any problems w/ em and put a shiet load of mileage on em
just for safe measures ~~~
43 lbs is just about waht my head weighs from time to time :devil: :devil: nope most of these guys are about my height n size. round 6ft 145-170lbs n massive amounts of torqueOriginally posted by mrbigisbudgood
You and your little 43 lb. racer friends can run all the lightweight crap y'all want to.
, them not me lolYou met me briefly up @ Platt once and know I'm not a big guy (160#)so there's that, but I also know how to shift, have a pretty decent chainline and am normally only mashing with a light bike. So, I dunno, works for me.Originally posted by Echo
Dude, honest to Pete you are the only person I have ever heard of that didn't ruin the XTR Ti cassette in a few rides. Must be they mis-labeled an XT
BTW, the cassette is currently on my burly hardtail and doing fine so far. We'll see how it goes with real testing once I'm recovered from this knee thang.
V brakes, I don't think so.
Actually I haven't tried an XTR in about 6 years... and back when I did use one, I was much less smooth of a rider. So that could definitely have something to do with it. Anyway, I toasted the thing, and Performance gave me a $118 store credit because they didn't have any in stock. So I got 2 XT's and never looked back
Nice. I've an XT on one of my bikes. They do last. I'm a rampant chain replacer too, so my drivetrain stays around awhile. Funny thing is when I got mine, I bought it slightly used. Couple of smaller rings were bent, but replaced those (steel). It's the larger cogs that are ti.Originally posted by Echo
Actually I haven't tried an XTR in about 6 years... and back when I did use one, I was much less smooth of a rider. So that could definitely have something to do with it. Anyway, I toasted the thing, and Performance gave me a $118 store credit because they didn't have any in stock. So I got 2 XT's and never looked back
If you have cane creek and white brothers as sponsors, sport their equipment.
wheelset : cane creek team ti (718g fr, 948g rr)
Fork : White brothers xc.8 (2.9 lb I think)
wheelset : cane creek team ti (718g fr, 948g rr)
Fork : White brothers xc.8 (2.9 lb I think)
Ya I think I'm going more in the direction of XTR disks now but I really like Cane Creek wheelsets
I don't know much about White brothers they are supposed to be good. If White Bros ends up being a sponser he says that he will insist that I use their fork or else If they don't end up being a sponser they are way to expensive and I'll either go with Rockshox or Manitou.Right now it's dry so disks seem pointless but as soon as it rains i'll be wanting disks so i think i'll go with disks and it would weigh less than pound extra and not much more money.
I have been racing on my XTR Ti cassette all year and it is still going strong. I am not a gentle racer either, I do a lot of standing climbing. Most of the people I know who have bent their cassettes are people who lack finesse when shifting. If you try shifting under load, then that is how your gears will get bent. If you ease up on the power while the chain is shifting then your cassette will last longer.Originally posted by Echo
Dude, honest to Pete you are the only person I have ever heard of that didn't ruin the XTR Ti cassette in a few rides. Must be they mis-labeled an XT
Also, XTR cranksets rule. I will never use anything else.
Pick up an XT in your hand, and then pick up an XTR. It's worth it if you're a racer. Rotational mass yo. Skimp somewhere else. If you happen to be running 8 speed it'll be cheaper.Originally posted by JMAC
Ok wow most of these post are about XTR TI cassettes enough already I'm going to get XT cassettes
The frames ae painted by Marinoni here's all my color choices.
http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/fr_echantillons.asp
What looks best they look awsome in real live the web page does no justice for them.
http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/fr_echantillons.asp
What looks best they look awsome in real live the web page does no justice for them.
hey, my school's team was sponsored by White Bros. and unless you have some serious deal, there's no real hookup involved. Somthing like 10% off MSRP ain't no team deal. you could probably find most of the stuff online for cheaper than they hook you up.Originally posted by indieboy
you must not have read the part about his sponsors for the team being cane creek and white bros did you......*shakes head*
all that cold weather must be ****ing w/ your brain bro.
As for the wheels, I was just making suggestions, does cane creek make rims or just wheelsets? their hubs are pretty crappy, imho.