MMcG said:
Nah... I think partical used to post in the P&WN forum..
I'm going to scream - now the HEAD TUBE ANGLE?!
- Thread starter MtnBikerChk
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Nah... I think partical used to post in the P&WN forum..
You may be correct, or you may not. We all tend to see "good fit" through our own mind's eye. I am a bit of a bicycling efficiency geek, and studied framebuilding and have done some tube mitering and brazing with the idea of maybe one day selling frames to others. I have studied fit and efficiency both as a hobby, and as a manner of educating myself so that I can help anyone I might be able to sell a frame to.SilentJ said:
For an example of why I say she's not "too cramped" -- I've been riding MTBs for about 15 years, and road bikes for about 7 years longer than that. These days 98% of my saddle time is MTB.
My average rides are 2.5 to 3.5 hours. On weekends I do long backcountry rides of up to 8 hours saddle time. The terrain I ride generally is technical and fairly steep. Northern Rockies, which means rocky, loose, rooty and rutty. Alpine terrain is steep, subalpine less so. I ride a mix of both.
My torso posture and cockpit fit are pretty much like MtnBikrChk is in her first picture at the start of this thread. However, I am definitely less compact between the hip and the BB. At 5'10" I am generally on the dividing line between a Mfr's recommended frame sizes of Medium and Large. I prefer a smaller frame and I do not like stem lengths beyond 100mm, even for extended XC riding. Am I able to ride comfortably and efficiently in the position I see MtnBikrChk taking in her first picture? Yes, as long as I've got more extension in my legs, as I've been saying.
It's possible that MtnBikrChk needs to be in a different posture, but what should tell her that is her experience with her own physiology, her own style, her own preference for bike sizing (smaller frame or larger frame)... not a fit kit, not a bike salesman's notion of a "universal" ideal. I'm not too sure that "universal" is anywhere close to possible.
I think I posted in 1 or 2 threads and could not tell whether the other regulars in there were "hazing" me as indoctrination, or were quite serious and just plain stupid.N8 said:
Thanks. I could be wrong in my opinion about her fit, but I'm pretty confident that I'm not. As to being relatively new -- No, just haven't spent much time commenting here. Too busy riding most of the time.MMcG said:
Please update this thread with findings about alterations in her fit. I'm interested to see how her adjustments work out for her.
Heavens to murgatroyd! Nice, but wasn't that thing a bit costly? Probably worth more than my old pickup truck.N8 said:
I liked feeling more upright. Is that because I have no core strength?particle bored said:
This is me now -
Don't I look thrilled? LOL
sanjuro said:
who said I don't stand? I stand on all decents, tricky rollers etc.
From my experience, lack of core strength tends to show up as these things -- sore lower back, weak seated climbing technique, inability to ride for extended periods with the pelvis rolled forward.MtnBikerChk said:I liked feeling more upright. Is that because I have no core strength?
This is me now -
Don't I look thrilled? LOL
Singlespeeding will show you your core strength weaknesses pretty quickly over the course of a 1.5 hour (or thereabouts) ride. HAH!
That picture above -- you are definitely too compressed in the hip-to-BB measurement if you're pedaling there. If you're just resting on the saddle and coasting in the middle of a saddle-down descent section, it's okay.
Looks like Eastern US terrain there.
yeah, I guess it depends on which pic you saw.sanjuro said:
How 'bout this one? (you know, since this thread is already about ME)
and PB I guess I don't know if I was coasting or not
Actually I think a more upright position would be good for our trails around here - think technical rocky stuff that often has to be ridden at slow speeds in order to navigate through.
Much different than smooth single track with long climbs etc. etc.
Much different than smooth single track with long climbs etc. etc.
N8 said:I never did see your impressions of the Titus Rx 29er Splat...
What did you think of it?
You:
here is a better picture of it for you 29er type people
I tend to buy all my bikes with this being the main way I decide.N8 said:
That bike does look too small for you. My wife is the same height and is perfect on a S Burner.
As far as head tube angle, I'm told you really need to consider your style/type of riding. More XC, you probably want 70+. More DH, you want <69.
Personally, I like 69 as a good 'all around' angle.
Every year I ride different bikes. I always try to make note of their geometry and how it affects me. Just for kicks I have played around with seat postion stem length etc. I can now understand by the geometry charts what bike will be comfy and how it will handle. I bought my last bike because of geometry alone. I couldn't be happier. Conclusion: ride as many bikes as you can that are in the general range of your size.
CARBON? You ARE kidding right?The Joker said:Y-Frame? Is it carbon? Because it it is, you can play it like a a banjo.
You'd jump on a carbon anything!? No thanks, I don't want my bike to crack in half on a three foot drop. I'll take the weight of AL YOU MIN EE UM as the Europeans call it over carbon. It's aluminuminuminum. But it's under 36 lbs. So I'm coowitit!
Chunky Munkey said:CARBON? You ARE kidding right?
nobody stocks smalls.Westy said:
MtnBikerChk said:
Can't find smalls of the Titus or a small bike of any size? If you can find a bike with similar geometry to test even if you don't want that bike.
Westy said:
Hard time finding any smalls. Although there are a few small giants at a shop I know that I'm going to try - so I shouldn't say "no one." They are just hard to find.
And everyone bags on Performance. I bet they have several smalls on the racks at the shop down here.
I am pretty sure your local Titus dealer can get a bike with no onligation to buy it if it doesn't fit.Westy said:
That's the problem N8 - there are Zero Titus Dealers in Connecticut or all of New England for that matter according to the the Titus web site.N8 said:
I think they neeed an on the ground New England sales rep! And they need to provide said sales rep with an XS Motolite, a S Racer X, a Medium Supermoto, and a Medium Racer X 29er.
heck yeah man.DRB said:
when i used to race, i spent more time riding my mt. bike on the road than i did my real road bike.
the more i did. the more i fine tuned the fit.
and it did make a difference.
small changes can eliminate lower back pain, neck pain, knee problems etc...
I figured out what my comfort zone is a while a go. Lately I have fine tuned my position on the bike as far as centering my weight. What a huge difference that has made. I can climb and deal with tech sections much better now.dhbuilder said:
There's one in Saratoga.MMcG said:
That ain't New England!McGRP01 said:There's one in Saratoga.
And Tigg - that shop should call Titus cuz they aren't listed unless I'm missing it on this list:
Yorktown Cycles
1899 Commerce Street
Yorktown Height, NY 10598
914/245-5504
Contact: Tom Walsh
http://yorktowncycles.com
tom@yorktowncycles.com
Piermont Bicycles Connection, Inc.
215 Ash St
Piermont, NY 10968
845-365-0900
PIERMONTBIKE@AOL.COM
Bike Junkie
272 Broadway
Bethpage, NY 11714
516/932-7271
Dark Horse
2294 Rt 208 #5
Montgomery, NY 12549
845-778-6604
WWW.DARKHORSECYCLES.COM
Mendon Cycle Smith
1350 Pittsford-mendon Rd
Mendon, NY 14506
585/624-2120
Cats3elton@aol.com
Just a stones throw my friend...MMcG said:
exactly.Westy said:
when you find that zone on your bike. you'll find that smaller fore and aft movements make a big difference in handling.
watch any good cyclist on video from road to downhill.
their head and upper torso are usually very motionless.
every little saved bit of energy adds up at the end of the race or ride.
Check my edited post - the shop needs to contact Titus and get on the list.McGRP01 said:Just a stones throw my friend...
Doh...calling now.MMcG said:
I need an invitation... to rideMcGRP01 said:Doh...calling now.
MMcG said:
Wow! I am a somebody! Thats us....
jdcamb said:
and per your advice, I called Titus last night and talk to the the Eastern sales rep re
izing. He said that the xs should fit me for sure. He said that smalls start around 5'5". He also said I could forward the pics to him and he would give me feedback regarding the fit.I'm still waiting to hear back
So you get to hang out with Pete's (is that right) two Chinooks then while you work right?jdcamb said:
How old is his one pup now that he got from Rivertrail Chinooks??
yeah, yeah, we've seen it. Very pretty. We're all jealous....N8 said:
hey let's not forget this is MBC's thread.
