I'm thinking about that(that's why I want a dh ready not a xc helmet looking like a ff).Shouldn't protection and fit be more important than weight when choosing a helmet?
...ok? So are you looking for a helmet that is DOT approved? Because all other helmets are going to be trying to conform to the same 'bicycle' standards, and thus, are, by your definition, "xc helmets looking like a full-face."I'm thinking about that(that's why I want a dh ready not a xc helmet looking like a ff).
Haha. Oh ok.DOT approved? Sry I haven't slept to much lately
But rather by that I ment normal dh helmets with nice jaw protection. Was just afraid that somebody will come up with sth more for enduro(like the old giro or met helmet with removable jaw protection) cuz the weight weenies on forums sometimes have scary ideas.
I wouldn't think so. Especially since all helmets must meet, pass and exceed helmet saftey requirments. So even if it's superlight weight it will still hold up as the heavier models. If not better.Shouldn't protection and fit be more important than weight when choosing a helmet?
I was using the 661 full bravo for some time and don't feel anything wrong with them. But maybe 1 direct hit in the tree wasn't enough?. They are not good... and I was using one of these.
http://www.sixsixone.com/Catalog_661Bike.aspx?id=94e94804-9906-4c99-814f-b1c68a749f7f&product=4447c25c-e2eb-41f3-bbe8-80f94864e157
So don't compromise weight for saftey, concusions can be very serious. Hey and if weight is an issue... get some kneck weights (haha). Best of luck with piking out your helmet.
www.beyondbikes.com ---they're helmets are 08's and less then msrp.
PS: If I'm wrong on anything, please correct me. Thanks.
The first time I was going about 20 mph and my vision turned white and I felt like I was going to pass out.I was using the 661 full bravo for some time and don't feel anything wrong with them. But maybe 1 direct hit in the tree wasn't enough?
ECE is not lower. It is the European version of "DOT" approval/testing, and is arguably a better standard that US DOT.There is also a lower rating I believe for motocross, it is called ECE and it is softer and more conforming. So this is also an option.
I'm not gonna argue about this, but my head is worth enough to me that I will gladly sacrifice weight for a proper fit and good protection.I wouldn't think so. Especially since all helmets must meet, pass and exceed helmet saftey requirments. So even if it's superlight weight it will still hold up as the heavier models. If not better.
Snell is 'higher' than DOT. Snell is made for higher speeds, harder impacts, higher g-forces and multiples impacts on the same helmet region (Which is its downfall...). It's great if you are driving an F1 car.DOT is overkill...ANSI/SNELL is plenty.
SNELL B-95 is a common bicycle certification. Many are also CE and CPSC certified. Look for the ASTM cert. The Deviant, D2, and Rampage are ASTM off the top of my head.Snell is 'higher' than DOT. Snell is made for higher speeds, harder impacts, higher g-forces and multiples impacts on the same helmet region (Which is its downfall...). It's great if you are driving an F1 car.
~2.2lbs - not bad. Never been a fan of Giro Full faces tho.Back on topic. My Giro 06 Carbon weighs 960g with dirt,sweat and a couple of stickers,on my bodgie fruit scales(within say 5g).and it's comfier than my old D2.
Bell Moto-8 = 2.9 lbs inc visor and all hardware and comfort liner. The Fox and TLD stated weights are given w/o those parts installed. Most good MX helmets are about 3 lbs these days, give or take an ounce or two. In fact, two of the helmets you mentioned and the one I mentioned use a lot of the same materials such as Tri-Weave (Carbon, Kevlar, and Fiberglass woven together) for the outer shell.Lightest Helmets I know of are:
TLD D2, HJC Carbon, Fox V3
all around 2.9lbs...
All moto.
I may have the answer to your one question.i just have one question? why is it most people are looking for a light weight helmet! why are they worried about cost?
you can go out and buy a $2000-$5000 bike but are worried about spending alittle extra on your head!
people say moto helmets are to heavy. well why can myself, and every other motocrosser in the world wear one for a 20-30 min. plus two lap moto,but they're to heavy for a 2-5 min. DH run. think about it, bicycle helmets are junk!! carbon fiber or not.
i've been thinking about wearing a Leatt neck brace!! some might say its heavy. but if i can wear it for a 30 min. moto i can wear it for a 5 min. DH run! WHY because my neck is worth the extra pound or so!!