marzo dirtjumpers yes or no?
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I have an 02 DJ 1(ssvf) and my friend has an 04 DJ 2(ssv). Mine feels way plusher then his, but it doesn't feel as plush as my Shiver, which has hscv damping, like the 888.
You'll be fine with a DJ 1. I beat mine to **** last year before I got a Manitou Jumper this year for my HT. It just need new seals and bushings. No cracks or anything of that sort.
I hope that helps.
You'll be fine with a DJ 1. I beat mine to **** last year before I got a Manitou Jumper this year for my HT. It just need new seals and bushings. No cracks or anything of that sort.
I hope that helps.
ok then so I guess my desicion is now between the dj series and if I could get my hands on a dot I probably would becasue don't forget i have limited money and I want to use it for freeriding so the dj really isn't for me its just better than what im using now
sorry im not the best writer. any ways I will probably end up going the route of the dirt jumper. but since they are not availible through aftermarket. Its hard to get them but if i can i will is all I am sayin the dirt jumper is easy to get
Spike. Great for big, one off hits... that's about it.HRDTLBRO said:
what is spiking any ways
If i did get a dot i would drill it out and put a pvc pipe spacer to up the travel about an inch so it would be like a super t minus qr20
I'm also sure you've read on NSMB about DJer's and how they suck because they cracked or broke the stantions. Well those ppl say that because they used the fork for the wrong purpose.
Hang on a second, how can using a DJ fork for dirtjumping be using it for the wrong purposes? Isn't it marketed as one of the strongest singlecrown fork available?
The crowns cracked (03) because of the stupid M shape and integrated fender mount. The stanchions cracked (02) because of the cryofit process... and any 04 and 05 forks that have broken were probably dropped from a metre high to concrete, they're that damn heavy... then again, I'd be worried about the concrete cracking.
Increasing the travel on a DJ won't make it feel any better, you'll just have a bigger, heavier fork that still feels like crud on rough stuff.
The crowns cracked (03) because of the stupid M shape and integrated fender mount. The stanchions cracked (02) because of the cryofit process... and any 04 and 05 forks that have broken were probably dropped from a metre high to concrete, they're that damn heavy... then again, I'd be worried about the concrete cracking.
Increasing the travel on a DJ won't make it feel any better, you'll just have a bigger, heavier fork that still feels like crud on rough stuff.
thats why i don't want to get a dj oh and a junior t has ssv would it feel the same as a dj but with less travel?
cool!
so..... Don't answer if you won't give an acyuall answer to this tread. will the dj will be good for freeriding yes or no??
Come on you guys have lots of opinions but please could some one whos actually used it for freeriding tell me
Dont use a DJ series fork for freeriding. To me freeriding consists of technical trails, not just hitting one drop over and over. In a rock garden, or over roots you will notice the spiking of a DJ fork. SSV damping is basically a hole thru which oil passes. When hitting a trail w/ fast, repeated hits (stutter bumps to some) a large volume of oil is trying to flow through a very small hole, which causes the fork to compress a bit, then "spike" or "pogo" back up, as if it has no damping system at all. I think...but im not sure, that spiking is somewhat similar to hydraulic lockout. The effects of spiking can be reduced somewhat by drilling out the damping rods in the fork, but it will never feel as good as a fork with HSCV damping. I say pony up for a Marzocchi with HSCV damping, such as one of the better Z!'s, or get a sherman. I have ridden the fork in tech trails firsthand, and these are my experiences, this is not just e-speculation 
oh, and dont get a drop off triple either. if you were going to get a drop off triple for freeriding, you might as well just get a dj fork, since they are essentialy the same, except the DOT is a DC, with ~1.5" more of travel. And drilling it and adding a spacer will NOT make it compare to a super t.
What about the Pikes?
I wouldn'd get a pike cause im trying to stick to qr axle
even though you guys say no i might end up going the route of the dj but i would probably drill it out cause it getting harder to get a older z1 now 
just say no to marzo dj's 
oops I voted wrong. I figured you were dirtjumping with them...trails and djers suck together. Its doable...but if I had a choice I wouldn'tDROP said:
i have bent 2 already and im 145 lbs and not a hard rider
they spike like fruit juice bowl at a keg party
If you only have $300 and need a burly fork, you can't go wrong with a DJ. I have one and I'm very happy with it, yes it's not very effective on a trail with roots and stuff but you just have to be smooth. I mostly jump with mine, and it handles drops well too.
If you want a plush fork that's nice on trails and doesn't spike, get a Z1 or a Pike, even if you'll have to get a thru-axle (which would be for the better).
If you want a plush fork that's nice on trails and doesn't spike, get a Z1 or a Pike, even if you'll have to get a thru-axle (which would be for the better).
getting a tru axel dosn't bother me it just the face that i can't lace wheels so I have to go pay the guy at the bike shop 60 bucks to do it
I ment fact not face
I'd avoid the DJ series. They are Pig heavy and the damping system is pretty tired. They are good reliable forks but dollar to dollar there are better forks out there.
In the same position I'd probably purchase one of the lowest end (steel steer tube) Rock Shox Pike forks.
With the Rock Shox you get a much better damping system, way more adjustability (including 3-5" of travel adjustment), better tire clearance, and you might even save a few $$$.
In the same position I'd probably purchase one of the lowest end (steel steer tube) Rock Shox Pike forks.
With the Rock Shox you get a much better damping system, way more adjustability (including 3-5" of travel adjustment), better tire clearance, and you might even save a few $$$.
Personally, I would stick to street and DJ with the DJ fork. It does that well. Yeah, it's heavy, and that's the point. Stop whining you cry babies. I have no problem manualing or barspinning so it can't be that heavy.
It's designed for abuse. Plain and simple. It's heavy, but very strong. I've cased numerous times, mistimed barspins, etc. etc. and never had the fork complain once.
It's not a trail fork. I can ride w/ it on trails, but I would definately prefer a Z1 or 66 over it.. not plush at all. Can get to the point of rigid riding sometimes, and my back tells me all about it after 2 days of riding on trails.
Oh and, they don't crack anymore, for all you people who think you know what you're talking about. That stopped circa '04.
It's designed for abuse. Plain and simple. It's heavy, but very strong. I've cased numerous times, mistimed barspins, etc. etc. and never had the fork complain once.
It's not a trail fork. I can ride w/ it on trails, but I would definately prefer a Z1 or 66 over it.. not plush at all. Can get to the point of rigid riding sometimes, and my back tells me all about it after 2 days of riding on trails.
Oh and, they don't crack anymore, for all you people who think you know what you're talking about. That stopped circa '04.
Everyone in this thread that mentioned cracking mentioned it was an 03-specific problem... so they do know what they're talking about.phlegm said:
would drilling out the dramping rods make it more plush? oh and buy the way yes I am looking at the z1s with hscv
oh and just out of curiosity would you be able to fit a dj with hscv damping
just a thought but I might end up getting an 02 Z1 FR(hscv)
just a thought but I might end up getting an 02 Z1 FR(hscv)
oh one more thing on marzzochi it says that the 03 djs are freeride forks im looking at an 03 dj2 with the new crown would that be any better on trails then the 04?
just wanted to let u guys know that I skipped the djs and just bought a fork with hscv.
i have an 03' DJ 1 and love it. Its starting to creek but I couldnt be happier. The creaking is comming from the headset, sorry about that.
after bout a month on my new dj3 i coulnt be happier, its solid and smooth. doesnt feel heavy at all