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MKIII too steep of a head angle

Biscuit

Biscuit

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Feb 12, 2003
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DHS said:
biscuit i was just "trying" to point out that he notice the steep head angle feel of the bike. and ska-todd can be evil sometimes. :p
other then that i like the suspension. but the bike just doesn't seem to fit. hopefully next week i'll be able to ride a 17" and see how that feels.
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I understand. I wasn't "trying" to say you were wrong, just trying to get people to take into consideration who is giving the review.

If it wasn't a bike I liked, I probably wouldn't have taken the time to respond.

Also, so you know, I just bought an SX trail and am planning on selling the Titus I talked to you about. The geo on the titus was almost identical the enduro, except it was too long for me and I could hardly jump the thing.

I decided against an mkIII because I wanted a slightly slacker head angle, and a little more travel. When the 6" dw bike comes out, I may have an enduro for sale.
 
Biscuit

Biscuit

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Yea, an '05 with 6" of travel via a 5th coil over. The frames on the regular enduro's and the SX Trails are identical except the Trail comes with a coil over (which I prefer) and beefier parts.

I'll be swapping some stuff around (wheels, bars, stem, brakes, fork... er.. everything) with parts from my titus to make it lighter/better.
 
Biscuit

Biscuit

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The enduro I just got is a medium (not for sale yet).

The titus was custom for a friend of mine based on the quasi-moto before they came out with the super-moto. I think it was the first bike they made with a headtube gusset. It's basically a large with a medium seat tower (for better crotch clearance). I have all the geo spec's at home if anyones interested.
 
joelsman

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my yeti 575 w/ fox van 130 has a 68.5* head angle, I thought about the mkIII but decided I like slacker head angles, so far it has been great.
 
MikeD

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BMXman said:
Hey DHS if you do decide to sell the 19" frame I would be very interested. I'm currently on a 17" and I would prefer a bit larger frame....but I need the green:D...D
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Thank God. I thought you'd stopped buying a new bike every week!

(Oh, wait, I have like 5 frames to sell off...shoot... I guess it's the pot calling the kettle 'butterscotch...')

MD
 
Mackie

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dw said:
The first goes up around next Wednesday. Then a more interactive version will go up a few weeks later.
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Hey Dave, the site looks great!
I noticeed something though - the title at the top of the window -
It says Tommaso bikes! What's next, a DW linked road bike?:rolleyes:
Anyway, I'm curious how that happened. I guess you web designer gets lots of work in the bike industry.
Here's a screen shot to show you what I'm talking about.
 

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Biscuit

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Mackie said:
Hey Dave, the site looks great!
I noticeed something though - the title at the top of the window -
It says Tommaso bikes! What's next, a DW linked road bike?:rolleyes:
Anyway, I'm curious how that happened. I guess you web designer gets lots of work in the bike industry.
Here's a screen shot to show you what I'm talking about.
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I thought the site was cool too. Informative, yet easy to digest.

But I want more. I want the next page to have some crazy vectors, victors and moments pointing in all directions. Gotta have something that takes the super-geek tech heads a while to digest.

Or you could post the patent application (with the hand drawn egg-shaped wheel). That thing was all the info I could handle.

P.S. dw - I noticed a significant amount of typo's (tried pm'in ya, but your box is full).
 
MMcG

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Mackie said:
Hey Dave, the site looks great!
I noticeed something though - the title at the top of the window -
It says Tommaso bikes! What's next, a DW linked road bike?:rolleyes:
Anyway, I'm curious how that happened. I guess you web designer gets lots of work in the bike industry.
Here's a screen shot to show you what I'm talking about.
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I caught that too! Whoops!
 
BMXman

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MikeD said:
Thank God. I thought you'd stopped buying a new bike every week!

(Oh, wait, I have like 5 frames to sell off...shoot... I guess it's the pot calling the kettle 'butterscotch...')

MD
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you made me spit up my sandwich...I haven't heard "butterscotch since you left:D...and trading the same frame sizes doesn't count:eviltongu:
 
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klunky

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I think I undestand the stuff on the DW link page but it doesnt explain why the bike doesnt bob when I mash the pedals or does it? have I missunderstood anti squat curves?
 
DHS

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yea played with 90mm, 100mm, 110mm stems. also went to a guy here locally that is a official fitter for seven and trek bikes and such. lots of help

in the end it was 110 with some seat adjustment and some headset spacers removed.

you REALLY have to adjust the suspension perfectly though. front and rear.
 
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dw

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so maybe the title of the thread should change to " I need a different stem for my MKIII" :D
 
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MichaelT

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I have a Y05 17" Mark III with stock stem and handlebar. I have had it a bit more than 6 months. I am using a Progressive Air rear boinger and Manitou Nixon set at 510mm Crown to Axle lenght. The bike is designed with this measurement in mind. I have my seat push a bit forward (so it is not center on the rails of the offset seatpost).

The bike feels super sweet for me. I do not want a slacker angle as it would affect the climbing performance. Can't Climb aka Tom commented on this earlier. I do not want steeper either.
Basically my pourage is not too hot, not too cold... just right.

Travis, PM at Iron Horse, and I were discussing the Mark III one day. Travis runs a shorter than stock spec stem because he did not want to be as far forward on the bike as it would make the bike 'feel' too steep. This may be what DHS is experiencing.

So I guess the bottom line is that one needs to fine tune their saddle height and fore/aft position as well as the stem and handlebar position. I am still fine tuning mine... I am pretty dang close.

I am a huge fan of the Mark III.

Michael
 
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DHS said:
yea played with 90mm, 100mm, 110mm stems. also went to a guy here locally that is a official fitter for seven and trek bikes and such. lots of help

in the end it was 110 with some seat adjustment and some headset spacers removed.

you REALLY have to adjust the suspension perfectly though. front and rear.
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Glad to hear you had it dialed by a pro fitter. That is always key.

Michael
 
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Brian Peterson

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I know my boss just got a MKIII and after the first ride, he ended up bumping up the fork travel... Now with 150mm up front, it has me looking at one of those... Todd, you may be hearing from me soon...

Brian
 
James

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Brian Peterson said:
I know my boss just got a MKIII and after the first ride, he ended up bumping up the fork travel... Now with 150mm up front, it has me looking at one of those... Todd, you may be hearing from me soon...

Brian
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Brian, get back to work. Leave the ordering of stuff to JP and crew...
Though I was admiring the new Marathon as a fork for the new SS...:)
I'll drop you a line with my new email tomorrow.

James
 
DHS

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Brian Peterson said:
I know my boss just got a MKIII and after the first ride, he ended up bumping up the fork travel... Now with 150mm up front, it has me looking at one of those... Todd, you may be hearing from me soon...

Brian
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yes sir. have the All mtn 1 150mm. that made it feel even better. the tst is weird to get use too but nice compression adjustment
 
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Brian Peterson

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For the most part, I leave my TST either wide open or one click in... Only when I know I have a long climb do I add a click or 2... Now, my ETA on the other hand.... That gets some use...

Brian
 
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