got saints today, after my code 5 blew up 10 minutes before my race, a nice 275 dollar mistake, but after getting the saint, i like it more, enough to buy a front as well.
Does Whiteface have a significant vertical drop that's any larger than anywhere else you ride? I have a mod I intend to try that might fix the issue, but whether it's effective or not depends on whether or not my theory as to the cause of the problem is correct.Only problem I had with my saints was getting the brass ferule into the hose (olive + ferule required for hose shortening). That sucker was a royal PITA to get in.
Once installed, by hand, in a parking lot, I bled them in the same parking lot, solo. They've felt like a factory bleed since. I have similar "gas pocketing" issues as socket, where certain times I feel like they're fading or the contact point changes. Happened at whiteface almost exclusively.
Yeah ok... I'm gonna try a small mod next time I ride and see how it goes, if it makes any improvement I'll let you know. Do you notice any other trends in what happens? I've noticed that if I ride at high speed (50+km/h) for say 30sec without touching the brakes, they always have too much throw, for example.It's got 2800 vertical, runs vary between 10s and 20s, depending on trail and speed. Most places hover around 1000 in this area, I think, but some are more steep than others. I've had issues at plattekill in the past, but this year, with the saints, it hasn't been bad. I do get howling near the bottom, however. Whiteface just keeps going, and sometimes the lever is too far and sometimes it's too near. Then I take the lift up and it's fine again. I may simply try giving them a better bleed, but 95% of the time it's a non-issue, and I just cope or adjust the lever.
Interesting... my Gustavs never had any issues, just solid, predictable performance every time. I run mine at Keystone which has almost 3000 ft. vertical drop. Mine never rub either.I can't really speak about too many other anomalies while riding with them...mostly because I just don't think about them, and I haven't spent too much time at mega places. I've only had them up at whiteface once, and everything else here is pretty short...not like whistler.
The things that immediately come to mind are the inconsistent feel in extended runs, sometimes they start to pump up like other brakes but if I let them cool via letting off, they get nervously close to the bar...then back to normal at the bottom or even a few seconds later.
The other is the howling that occurs at the bottom of a brake heavy run. I have no noise from them whatsoever until I'm about 100yds from the bottom...I think it's just heat and it goes away rapidly as they cool.
I'm running alligator sawblade rotors which I'm not thoroughly thrilled with. They're light and cool looking, but they have a stange "pulsing" feel to them and I'm looking for a set of shimano or avid regular round ones. This is probably the cause of my howling issue, but with the amount of ventilation the rotors have, I doubt it's causing the lever "movement" issue.
Have you experienced anything out of the ordinary?
Modulation is about on a par with any other high end brake, they are an absolute b*tch to bleed, inconsistent lever feel, eat pads like a fat kid loves cake, spares are non existent and laughably expensive, need I go on? There are so many stories with people with the same issues...i take it that neither of you have had a set then. arguable performance? come on.... what other brakes have as good modulation?
i guess depends where you are, we seem to have good support here, nz.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=38266
$430USD packed pair.
then just stick any other rotor onWhat if I bend a rotor at a race? Parts are probably easier to come by and get for shimano, whether it be online or in real life.
Formula has odd sizing. They are thicker than other rotors and you will get mega lever throw with non-formula rotors and The One's/Megas. I also found 203mm formula adapters hard to get (they do exist). I have no idea why you would make 200mm and 203mm discs though... but they do.Unless there are weird issues with sizing. Not sure if Formula does it, but magura has odd sizing, hope had odd sizing, and a few others. for the most part things are standardized, but still; finding a set of ONE pads in the berkshires is NOT happening...but they've got hayes and shimano and avids.
They've stopped doing the 200mm from what i've heard and now do the 203 as standard. The rationale behind it was that they had 20mm steps from 160-180-200. The reason why they did 203 was because there are forks that are post mount 203mm right out of the box. These forks couldn't be downsized so they had to make 203mm rotors as well.Formula has odd sizing. They are thicker than other rotors and you will get mega lever throw with non-formula rotors and The One's/Megas. I also found 203mm formula adapters hard to get (they do exist). I have no idea why you would make 200mm and 203mm discs though... but they do.
Yep, it's fine.Reviving an old thread...
I'm considering getting some new Saints for my (new to me) 08 Demo 8. I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I'm looking for confirmation that I can run the Avid rotors with the Saint brakes. If the Saints come with centrelock rotors, I don't want to have to buy new rotors.
Can anyone confirm Avid rotor compatibility with Saint calipers?
Thanks