Cru there is no reason to post that up, please edit your post that does nothing but give a bad name to someone who puts alot of extra time and money into his components to make them work prefect.I remember the site got defaced awhile back. Apparently it's still not back up???
Speaking of Nemesis. Check this drama...
In all fairness, I think people deserve to see something like this. I have reserved my opinion and just posted up the link.Cru there is no reason to post that up, please edit your post that does nothing but give a bad name to someone who puts alot of extra time and money into his components to make them work prefect.
thanks for the support Foggy!Cru there is no reason to post that up, please edit your post that does nothing but give a bad name to someone who puts alot of extra time and money into his components to make them work prefect.
Brad im hoping will chime in but you can get ahold of him by email. I dont want to post his email adress online so if you pm me any questions or stuff like that ill do my best to answer them
ok here's a link to the working template , I havent added the photos yet but the text is there on all the products .
Sorry, man, but if you fyck with my crew, then you fyck with me....Thanks for the love Cru
Now tell WCH to pay me the rest of my cash for his bike !~
this is absolutely the reason. thank you jeremy....Brad, I think you're missing the point. Correct me if I'm wrong, Mike. But, as far as I know, the main reason that Mike is making an issue about the price is because of the run-around he got during the build, the amount of time that it took, and the fact that he drove 11 hours round trip to Sea Otter to pick up the bike just to find out that it wasn't completed...
My life has been in the public eye for years I'm used to this , doesnt phase me .why you guys make it public all your internals problems.
I don't think that posting this up is gonna help change anything...
I disagree with this. Generalizations are unfair for the exceptions. There are a lot of small builders that deliver great product without hassle and that have survived forever.@ the end of the day this is the problem with boutique bike companies. Unique is nice but the product is rarely worth the hastle. Theres a reason why few companies survive.
But I agree with this 100%.Posting up the drama hardly helps the case.
Ahh, I see. So people should remain ignorant and uninformed about company that's likely to cause them problems?But I agree with this 100%.
Ok, so maybe I don't agree 100%...Ahh, I see. So people should remain ignorant and uninformed about company that's likely to cause them problems?
I disagree with this. Generalizations are unfair for the exceptions. There are a lot of small builders that deliver great product without hassle and that have survived forever.
I agree that stirring up publicity at every turn is not helpful. I also believe, however, that the negative experiences are important to bring to the surface. WCH has been posting a long time here and at MTBR and has always given the companies he's dealt with a fair turn.I've been on both sides and for every bad company it seems there is an unethical customer who uses the notion that the "customer is always right" to their advantage by spewing negative publicity all over the web.
WCH is one of the most legit guys i have ever met. Straight up.WCH has been posting a long time here and at MTBR and has always given the companies he's dealt with a fair turn.
Agreed. And I have heard other, similar stories in addition to the three you mentioned, which is why I posted the link in the first place.I agree that stirring up publicity at every turn is not helpful. I also believe, however, that the negative experiences are important to bring to the surface. WCH has been posting a long time here and at MTBR and has always given the companies he's dealt with a fair turn.
This is the third problem with Nemesis that has come to light on this board in the past month or so. That's not a good track record. I'm seeing a pretty clear pattern here where Evil4bc can't come through with a promise - which is one thing - but then things take a turn for the worse and he thinks he should get all snappy with the customers over it, like they don't have any right to be frustrated.
You want to take a prime example of how to handle customers on a board? Look at DW's track record. When a nasty complaint surfaced about E.13, DW would calmly state their side - which, incidentally, usually put them above reproach since it typically ended up being a problem with the customer - make whatever offer he could to fix it, and that was that. That's what goes on in a good business. You don't turn around and retaliate with bitchy comments and nasty remarks when a customer has a problem.
So far, Brad has said that a customer who has no shock and no money was starting a "sh*t storm" and tried to use an excuse that a misrepresented product was sold "as-is" - not to mention insulting the person - he told a customer who had a two month delay on a set of handlebars that he would no longer tolerate impatience along with some unpleasant comments about expectations, and he's made several derogatory remarks to WCH who had his order price increased, money spent out of his own pocket, delays and poor communication.