just so this at dirt's gallery from rd 3 in nz (leov's bike) :
anyone has any info on this new 40 setup ?
anyone has any info on this new 40 setup ?
new fox 40 ???
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Probably just another prototype that will never make it to production. I would like to see the gold stanchions make it to shop floors, it seems they have been working on different coatings and what not for a few years so maybe something will come of that. As far as Leov's fork being a pre-production 2011, I wouldn't hold your breath.
Not that I've had an issue with it, but I'd like to see the hi/lo compression adjusters move to the top of the fork (more for convenience than anything else), and the 40 penis get castrated.
Looks like any other 40 to me other then that different adjuster, and gold stantions. Maybe just some prototype internals???
http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/mid-week-enzed-11-pt-ii.html/attachment/justin-leov-in-the-rock-garden
http://dirtmountainbike.com/news/mid-week-enzed-11-pt-ii.html/attachment/justin-leov-in-the-rock-garden
Looks like high/low speed rebound.
Trying to catch up with BoXXers...
Yeah, thats what it looks like, just independant rebound adjust
This.
Wouldn't surprise me at all mate, Do 40's really need Hi/Lo speed Rebound though? or is it just Fox trying to get as many adjusters on their forks as RS
EDIT: ignore this, im wrong
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why do you think it has hi/low speed rebound ? if im not mistaken ,it says ...compression
on the flat knob and from the pic bifff linked it clearly looks like the cap on the bottom is smaller than today's (where i assume the rebound knob is).
on the flat knob and from the pic bifff linked it clearly looks like the cap on the bottom is smaller than today's (where i assume the rebound knob is).
I don't see them getting all the adjustments to the crown, they'd just have to move the rebound to the bottom then.
I'll be in Dunedin in 5 days, I will see if I can catch up with J Lo and get the low down 
90% will never ride past the ability of the forks they have (when properly tuned) but yet the masses still yearn for something better.......ugh
QFT x1003094203423024
It amazes me that people will blow tons of money on the newest "pro level" whateveritis, and expect that they will get faster. News flash. If you have a 40 right now, I can all but guarantee its not whats holding you back. Steve Peat would outride you on a 96 Judy, on a hardtail, with a 120mm stem. Gear only goes so far.
Save your money, ignore the fads, take that money and put it into a freelap system if you really want to learn how to get faster.
funny how you 2 were the only guys to mention the "will this increase my performance" BS. Everybody was just interested in some new tech and both of you are pulling yourselves if you weren't interested yourselves. You opened the thread afterall
Looks like a new damper could be in the works.
correct.
dropmachine, I usually think your bang on, but I gotta disagree with you here. Improving forks and damper technology is only a good thing, and should be viewed with excitement. We have no idea if the benefits are as marginal as "having the compression access on the top instead of bottom" or if they've tweaked the damper, but being excited about a more efficient damper is pretty reasonable. Otherwise, we should still all be on those 98 judy's you mentioned.
Granted, there is a segment of the riding population already on the newest gear who will immediately go out and buy this because "this will make them faster" and making fun of them is pretty justified, but there are also alot of guys who are on older forks thinking of upgrading, and little damper tweaks may just push them over the edge. Just because something is good doesn't mean it shouldn't be improved, and if I can find a fork that's slightly more buttery and smooth, stays up in its travel just a little bit more, then I'm stoked. There are other people in the fork market then racer boys who would see no performance increase.
But anyway, as you were
Granted, there is a segment of the riding population already on the newest gear who will immediately go out and buy this because "this will make them faster" and making fun of them is pretty justified, but there are also alot of guys who are on older forks thinking of upgrading, and little damper tweaks may just push them over the edge. Just because something is good doesn't mean it shouldn't be improved, and if I can find a fork that's slightly more buttery and smooth, stays up in its travel just a little bit more, then I'm stoked. There are other people in the fork market then racer boys who would see no performance increase.
But anyway, as you were
The main increase in performance is that the cartridge is now upside down and will not suffer from no rebound in the beginning stroke of travel when air gets into the cartridge. The 40 will be a lot more durable which I am pretty excited about.
sounds like some logical changes, nice work fox.
Air never got into mine. The bleed will be no better as when you perform the bleed you place the cartridge bladder end up anyway.
Sometimes it was possible to dislodge the bladder in the bottom of the cartridge and get air in the cartridge. That problem is now gone. I wasn't talking about bleeding the cart but riding it.
yup, that happened to a few people i know
double yup. it would only be a natural progression for the fork.
If they had a better marketing dept. they would have done this 1-2 years ago.
they do promote the sh!t outa how great the FIT cartridge is
here's the big question. I wonder if the new damper will be compatible with previous 40's when it is available in a couple years??? I have a brand new 40 RC2, and would be interested in the upgrade. It likely wont be available in at least 2 years and it would likely be much cheaper to upgrade the damper then buy a whole new fork.
The reason Fox uses so little bath oil isn't that their seals suck balls (which they do) so much as a desire to keep weight down. That was also the motivation for the small oil volume closed dampers and all that. This is one of those instances were the clamor for light weight gave us something that isn't really as good as it could be.
Fox can't run more oil, because more oil means more weight, and everybody on the internet knows that a 7 pound fork with a decent amount of oil that performs amazingly well is nowhere near as important as a 6 pound fork you can brag about.
Where have I heard that before? 
Reality is I wan't a 2010 Marzocchi made by Fox but with a sealed damper.
I've been running Enduro seals on my 36 for years. I'm well aware.
Do you have any specific brand names you recommend or any kind? I am curious to do this as well.
enduro...
Ok, what other "real seals" are you talking about?
I saw these before:
http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id199.html
And have heard of not the greatest feedback ever.
But it is annoying, cause I open up my fox 40 after a few rides, and the oil is dark again....... Are the 2009/2010 seals better?
I saw these before:
http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id199.html
And have heard of not the greatest feedback ever.
But it is annoying, cause I open up my fox 40 after a few rides, and the oil is dark again....... Are the 2009/2010 seals better?
Real seal = oil seal + dust wiper
Fox just uses a dust wiper with no dedicated oil seal.