New Iron Horse Yakuza Series
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here it is:ska todd said:Side shot
-ska todd
Damn. That's SWEET, especially if it costs as little as I'd exect it to. Might even consider that instead of a Sunday if I ever get another full-on DH bike for next year. New cranks (heck, just some $60 FSA VDrives would do it) and some Hayes Mag levers and that thing would be even better.
I'm a big fan of the Stance Kingpin fork, based on specs alone. Plain TPC+ damping feels a lot better than SPV to me, though it lacks the pedalling platform.
As always, I'm dying to know the geometry.
Ed: Anyone else notice the 8-speed SRAM trigger? Hope those are available aftermarket...
I'm a big fan of the Stance Kingpin fork, based on specs alone. Plain TPC+ damping feels a lot better than SPV to me, though it lacks the pedalling platform.
As always, I'm dying to know the geometry.
Ed: Anyone else notice the 8-speed SRAM trigger? Hope those are available aftermarket...
Ditto.MikeD said:
So when are prices going to be avaliable?
Yea what's the deal with IH. They don't really give their dealers any help. Then the dealer can't get rid of the bikes b/c you can go on the internet and get the same bike for like $1000 less. Well maybe not that much, but they don't help their dealers out at all. What's the deal?
What is the frame weight of the Yakuza like compared to an SGS Pro frame? How about seatstay length? My gf is looking to replace her SGS with something a little lighter and more front end liftable.
I'm sure those numbers will come, but I'm an impatient SOB!
I'm sure those numbers will come, but I'm an impatient SOB!
Hans said:i'll gladly surrender if they get a Danish distributor:heart:
Danishes mmmmm....I disagree. I work at an IH dealer part-time and they have always enabled us to offer the bikes at the same prices as stupid-go and still keep a profit margin. They are also stellar when it comes to service and warrantys.fuzzynutz said:
that my .02.
Those new bikes look slick.
Wow...it's almost like...they're 2 completely different bikes! Thanks for showing us...
Seriously, aside from elevated chainstays and a single pivot (albiet in a completely different location), what are the similarities??
Seriously, aside from elevated chainstays and a single pivot (albiet in a completely different location), what are the similarities??
I think that the initial comparison was between bullit and 7" travel Yakuza
By the profile the Kumicho looks a lot like my older DHR Vs. a Bullit or anything else I can think of.
The bike and specs are looking pretty smoking to me.
The bike and specs are looking pretty smoking to me.
Reminds me of the C-note from a few years back.
it wasn't to compare the design of the bikes, I did it for myself to see how the bike would sit compared to two popular bikes some of us may have owned, ridden, or might own. Since we won't be riding it anytime soon, the picture kind of give a general look of how it might feelMikeD said:
Great idea.
There's a bit of confusion because the pinkbike article is calling the Yakuza a freeride series. If you look at the Kumicho vs the Bighit, they're pretty similiar in stance (except of course the IH has a longer wheelbase)
BUT, the Kumicho doesn't have a front derailleur and is called a downhill rig inside the article. Would be nice to see one or atleast the availability for one on the production models
BUT, the Kumicho doesn't have a front derailleur and is called a downhill rig inside the article. Would be nice to see one or atleast the availability for one on the production models
i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess thoughpunkassean said:
The Kumicho is where "freeride" and "downhill" become blurred. Is riding lift access trails all-day long freeride or is it downhill? I'd say it's both. It's a bikepark bike I guess you could say.thesacrifice said:
While the Kumicho is most certainly raceable for the beginner/sport rider, I'd reckon that 90% of the bikes sold will never see a race run. The purpose of the Kumicho was from the start to be the perfect bike for lift access riders on a budget.
Ha! That is about the funniest thing I've heard...there is nothing Taiwan catalog about these frames. They are ALL proprietary designs from scratch. While they might be singlepivot they are far from off the shelf!sirbikealot said:
The name Yakuza was Pilfered...
-ska todd
ska todd said:
Nicely put. I think the term Downhill is almost always associated with racing Vs. well....just riding Downhill at the mountains all day. Hey maybe its a Mountain bike. That would be a good catchy name.....
I do kinda like the Bikepark theme... I don't think of riding the mountains all day as freeriding.
ska todd said:
From what Ive heard about the bike its plenty capable of achieving Pro podiums. I really really want to build one of these up with a slightly different parts spec and give it a shot in the race season. This thing looks so rad I cant wait to try one out. I just wish I could go to Vegas.ska todd said:
besides ska todd's rebuttal below, i'd just like to point out the obvious here:sirbikealot said:
japan != china ~= taiwan
http://www.alllooksame.com/ yet they are VERY distinct nations
Toshi said:
Dude, chill out. China and Taiwan are just two places commonly known for production of such products. Dont be so quick to call people bigots.
Read the whole thread chief, question was answered. Too clever by half if you ask me, I would imagine they wouldn't be using those names to sell the bikes in Japan.sirbikealot said:
cool man, i understand completelyska todd said:
so I'm guessing the Kumicho wont take a front derailleur at all then
Not sure if this is what ya meant, but an e-type derailleur alters the chainline by 3/5ths of 5/8ths of fûck all... unless the chainline is rooted to begin with, it should be right.syadasti said:
Well I think you can mount etype front derailluers on DH bikes with one of the evil chainguides, but the chainlines on most DH bikes aren't that great - I don't know anything about this bike though - Todd or DW would have a better idea than me...thaflyinfatman said:
Another thing that keeps front derailluers off DH bikes is that usually the larger tires would rub the front derailluer...
reviving this thread after a few years, an e type front derailleur will not work on the kumicho.. doesn't clear the pivot. you're stuck with one ring