Ditto.MikeD said:...Anyone else notice the 8-speed SRAM trigger? Hope those are available aftermarket...
Me three, though the Sram X series 9sp has been flawless for me this season. Being I need the 11-34 cassette right now and don't break chains I may just stay with 9sp for awhile.Incubus said:Ditto.
Danishes mmmmm....Hans said:i'll gladly surrender if they get a Danish distributor :heart:
I disagree. I work at an IH dealer part-time and they have always enabled us to offer the bikes at the same prices as stupid-go and still keep a profit margin. They are also stellar when it comes to service and warrantys.fuzzynutz said:Yea what's the deal with IH. They don't really give their dealers any help. Then the dealer can't get rid of the bikes b/c you can go on the internet and get the same bike for like $1000 less. Well maybe not that much, but they don't help their dealers out at all. What's the deal?
it wasn't to compare the design of the bikes, I did it for myself to see how the bike would sit compared to two popular bikes some of us may have owned, ridden, or might own. Since we won't be riding it anytime soon, the picture kind of give a general look of how it might feelMikeD said:Wow...it's almost like...they're 2 completely different bikes! Thanks for showing us...
Seriously, aside from elevated chainstays and a single pivot (albiet in a completely different location), what are the similarities??
i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess thoughpunkassean said:Looks good, but what's up with the Japanese names?
The Kumicho is where "freeride" and "downhill" become blurred. Is riding lift access trails all-day long freeride or is it downhill? I'd say it's both. It's a bikepark bike I guess you could say.thesacrifice said:There's a bit of confusion because the pinkbike article is calling the Yakuza a freeride series...BUT, the Kumicho doesn't have a front derailleur and is called a downhill rig inside the article.
Ha! That is about the funniest thing I've heard...there is nothing Taiwan catalog about these frames. They are ALL proprietary designs from scratch. While they might be singlepivot they are far from off the shelf!sirbikealot said:i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess though
ska todd said:The Kumicho is where "freeride" and "downhill" become blurred. Is riding lift access trails all-day long freeride or is it downhill? I'd say it's both. It's a bikepark bike I guess you could say.
While the Kumicho is most certainly raceable for the beginner/sport rider, I'd reckon that 90% of the bikes sold will never see a race run. The purpose of the Kumicho was from the start to be the perfect bike for lift access riders on a budget.
-ska todd
ska todd said:If you've been to Whistler you know exactly what I mean. They last thing most of the groms there are thinking about is racing. They just love to ride bikes, hit big tables, and flow like crazy. THAT is mountain biking!!
-ska todd
From what Ive heard about the bike its plenty capable of achieving Pro podiums. I really really want to build one of these up with a slightly different parts spec and give it a shot in the race season. This thing looks so rad I cant wait to try one out. I just wish I could go to Vegas.ska todd said:While the Kumicho is most certainly raceable for the beginner/sport rider, I'd reckon that 90% of the bikes sold will never see a race run.
besides ska todd's rebuttal below, i'd just like to point out the obvious here:sirbikealot said:i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess though
AHAHAHHAAAAHAHAsirbikealot said:i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess though
That website rocks. I got my ass kicked on the survey.Toshi said:besides ska todd's rebuttal below, i'd just like to point out the obvious here:
japan != china ~= taiwan
http://www.alllooksame.com/ yet they are VERY distinct nations
Toshi said:besides ska todd's rebuttal below, i'd just like to point out the obvious here:
japan != china ~= taiwan
http://www.alllooksame.com/ yet they are VERY distinct nations
Read the whole thread chief, question was answered. Too clever by half if you ask me, I would imagine they wouldn't be using those names to sell the bikes in Japan.sirbikealot said:i'd imagine that these are the names of the bikes directly from the Taiwanese or chinese manufacturers catalog from which they picked them, just a guess though
cool man, i understand completelyska todd said:The Kumicho is where "freeride" and "downhill" become blurred. Is riding lift access trails all-day long freeride or is it downhill? I'd say it's both. It's a bikepark bike I guess you could say.
While the Kumicho is most certainly raceable for the beginner/sport rider, I'd reckon that 90% of the bikes sold will never see a race run. The purpose of the Kumicho was from the start to be the perfect bike for lift access riders on a budget.
Ha! That is about the funniest thing I've heard...there is nothing Taiwan catalog about these frames. They are ALL proprietary designs from scratch. While they might be singlepivot they are far from off the shelf!
The name Yakuza was Pilfered...
-ska todd
Maybe an e-type - not sure if it would have a good chainline though?thesacrifice said:cool man, i understand completely
so I'm guessing the Kumicho wont take a front derailleur at all then
Not sure if this is what ya meant, but an e-type derailleur alters the chainline by 3/5ths of 5/8ths of fûck all... unless the chainline is rooted to begin with, it should be right.syadasti said:Maybe an e-type - not sure if it would have a good chainline though?
Well I think you can mount etype front derailluers on DH bikes with one of the evil chainguides, but the chainlines on most DH bikes aren't that great - I don't know anything about this bike though - Todd or DW would have a better idea than me...thaflyinfatman said:Not sure if this is what ya meant, but an e-type derailleur alters the chainline by 3/5ths of 5/8ths of fûck all... unless the chainline is rooted to begin with, it should be right.