I'm all about the 30/30 FiOS in my neighborhood....not that I'd even approach the need....but oooooooo....the possibilities!!!-$99 Basic Plan to include limitless calling only
-$119 Select Plan throws in messaging but still demands $1.99 per MB of data
-$139 Premium Plan unlimited everything ($269.99 for two lines.)
well the point isn't the price so much - it's the change in the way the plans are billed. no more per minute pricing (if you use that much - even I don't! LOL)I guess I am just too cheap for my own good. $100 a month for a PHONE? Damn, I get mad when I spend more than $20 in a month on my pay-as-you-go crap.
It's about time.well the point isn't the price so much - it's the change in the way the plans are billed. no more per minute pricing (if you use that much - even I don't! LOL)
I love watching the pricing wars/games!T-mobile has worldwide unlimited outgoing UMA calling for $10/month. You can add it to any UMA phone. They announced it a few weeks ago...
The introductory price was $10 and then it went up to $20 but they lowered it again probably because they knew there was movement coming in the industry...I love watching the pricing wars/games!
What's that got to do with cell phones?T-mobile has worldwide unlimited outgoing UMA calling for $10/month. You can add it to any UMA phone. They announced it a few weeks ago...
UMA is for cellphones, duh.What's that got to do with cell phones?
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/22/details-emerge-on-t-mobiles-hotspot-home-talk-forever-setup/The new wireless routers that are coming out are going to make a landline look like HD DVD. You can take the sim card from your GSM phone (sorry verizon) plug it in the router, and it will hook up with a normal house phone.
Damn, I could never justify that. I'm pissed that my internet/tv service is $100.I pay $93 for my cranberry with text e-mail net, more minutes then I ever use.
I seriously doubt they connect to cell towers. As I understand it, they're wifi based, so if you're not in a city with free city-wide wifi or extensive free, open wifi networks from business... seems pointless since you'd have to find an open wifi signal.UMA is for cellphones, duh.
UMA phones use the Internet to connect to virtual cell tower servers and easily roam between real cell towers and the Internet like tower to tower roaming without dropping the call. Calls based anywhere in the world on this plan outgoing are free and have no roaming fees. No cell service is need - just a 70 Kbps (yes bits, not bytes) of bandwidth on a Wifi connection.
I have the Blackberry Curve with UMA:
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I have one - it connects and roams between both even while in a call. It connects to open or any number of flavors of secured wifi - WEP, WPA, WPA2 and the various variants. The server on the internet creates a secure tunnel to your phone. If and when the cellular signal is stronger it switches to the cell tower. You can set preference for roaming in the phone.I seriously doubt they connect to cell towers. As I understand it, they're wifi based, so if you're not in a city with free city-wide wifi or extensive free, open wifi networks from business... seems pointless since you'd have to find an open wifi signal.
A typical UMA/GAN handset will have four modes of operation:
* GERAN-only: uses only cellular networks
* GERAN-preferred: uses cellular networks if available, otherwise the 802.11 radio
* GAN-preferred: uses a 802.11 connection if an access point is in range, otherwise the cellular network
* GAN-only: uses only the 802.11 connection
In all cases, the handset scans for GSM cells when it first turns on, to determine its location area. This allows the carrier to route the call to the nearest GANC, set the correct rate plan, and comply with existing roaming agreements.
Generic Access Network (GAN), also known as Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA), is a telecommunication system allowing seamless roaming and handover between local area networks and wide area networks using a dual-mode mobile phone. It lets mobile operators deliver voice, data and IP Multimedia Subsystem/Session Initiation Protocol (IMS/SIP) type applications to mobile phones. Its ultimate goal is the convergence of mobile, fixed and Internet telephony (Fixed Mobile Convergence).
The local network may be based on private unlicensed spectrum technologies like Bluetooth or 802.11, while the wide network is alternatively GSM/GPRS or UMTS mobile services. On the cellular network, the mobile handset communicates over the air with a base station, through a base station controller, to servers in the core network of the carrier. Under the GAN system, when the handset detects a LAN, it establishes a secure IP connection through a gateway to a server called a GAN Controller (GANC) on the carrier's network. The GANC translates the signals coming from the handset to make it appear to be coming from another base station. Thus, when a mobile moves from a GSM to an 802.11 network, it appears to the core network as if it is simply on a different base station.
The system was initially called UMA and then renamed to GAN. It was developed by a group of operator and vendor companies. The initial specifications were published on 2nd September 2004. The companies then contributed the specifications to the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) as part of 3GPP work item "Generic Access to A/Gb interfaces". On 8th April 2005, 3GPP approved specifications for Generic Access to A/Gb interfaces for 3GPP Release 6. TS 43.318 and TS 44.318, and renamed the system to GAN. But the term GAN is little known outside the 3GPP community, and the term UMA is more common in marketing.
It obviously works for you, wherever you live, but you really need to add that disclaimer when you promote something since many monkeys live in an area where there is not an extensive, open wifi network system, either public or private.I have one - it connects and roams between both even while in a call. It connects to open or any number of flavors of secured wifi.
It works anywhere Tmobile has cellular coverage in the US. I got my phone for free from a Tmobile rep. That is how it works.It obviously works for you, wherever you live, but you really need to add that disclaimer when you promote something since many monkeys live in an area where there is not an extensive, open wifi network system, either public or private.
Also, I refuse to believe it connects to privately owned cell towers as they would pitch a fit, assuming the tower wasn't protected from open connections. So I'm gonna call shannigans on your cell tower statement.
ok, so it connects to only T-mobile licensed/owned cell towers. Makes sense.It works anywhere Tmobile has cellular coverage in the US. I got my phone for free from a Tmobile rep. That is how it works.
Tmobile has roaming agreements with various carriers in the US but those calls will draw from your regular plan minutes.Now, suppose you're out of reach of such a tower or a wifi, can you connect to other networks for a fee?
Name thirty...There are way too many other things I would rather do with $100 a month than talk on the phone.
I can absolutely believe that. They fvcked me some years back by double charging me for six months. It took six months to fix. Fvck them.verizon has a different definition of unlimited than the rest of the world does. A few months back they cut about 600 customers off for excessive use of their "unlimited" plans.
I don't know if this is correct since it came out before the official PR, but this was posted on engadget yesterday regarding the new plans:verizon has a different definition of unlimited than the rest of the world does. A few months back they cut about 600 customers off for excessive use of their "unlimited" plans.
* 5GB cap on data is out
* No contract extension for current customers
* Available on one or two year agreements
* All plans include Mobile Web 2.0 portal access
* No roaming or long distance
What the f*ck good are rollover minutes in an unlimited plan?and AT&T counters...
this new plan adds to our already impressive list of customer-friendly pricing initiatives including ROLLOVER, which lets customers carry over their unused minutes each month,
That's like athletes who give it 110%!What the f*ck good are rollover minutes in an unlimited plan?
My company pays for mine and I am on the minimum calling plan (they pay for whatever plan appropriate according to usage). I don't use all my minutes and I don't have the UMA add-on so UMA calls just deduct from my standard calling plan. I do take advantage of the unlimited data thoughMan, you guys talk on the phone more than teenage girls.
Forget to read a few words did we?What the f*ck good are rollover minutes in an unlimited plan?
nowadays, its all about texting to my BFF Rose.Man, you guys talk on the phone more than teenage girls.
I admit I do text more than talk on the phone, but I also say what needs to be said in 100 characters or less. I also type whole words, but that's because I'm old.nowadays, its all about texting to my BFF Rose.