Nixon or Pike?

phlegm · Jul 21, 2006

Which Pike are you talking about??? I own a 454 and I must say, I've ridden many a fork and this one has (so far) impressed me the most.

I have it on my jump bike (26", gears and slicks) and it goes from dj's to full on trail riding no problem.

Felt great right out of the box and still does. Easiest fork set-up I've ever done, too.

As far as the Nixon... if it feels anywhere near as good as my pike, I'd still get the pike.

sanjuro · Jul 21, 2006

pros of nixon: automatic travel adjustment (IT slips), factory rebuilds (will have to send back to Answer frequently)

bikerpunk98199 · Jul 21, 2006

PIKE! i love mine its dopealishus

bjanga · Jul 21, 2006

My e-speculator says that you should get the nixon if you plan on selling the fork after the frame breaks and should keep trying to find a pike if you want to run it on your next bike.

Personally I would save for a bomber, DJs be damned.

dropmachine · Jul 21, 2006

Get the Nixon! THe lack of small bump absorbtion really makes it a efficient pedaller. The IT is really sweet, as it will automatically tell you exactly how much travel you need, which in the forks opinion, is always none. The constant film of oil on the legs means its always well lubed, and the strange lack of control it gives you on repeated hits really makes it an adventure to ride.

THe Pike on the other hand, just goes up and down absorbing bumps in a controlled manner. How good can it be, it doesn't even cost nearly as much! Wheres the fun in that?

ps, Nixon for sale. Seller motivated!

dropmachine · Jul 21, 2006

Note you to you smarty pants, mines an Intrinsic! So take that!

I forgot to mention the super mega hyper fun corner diving action, with kungfu grip!

.:Jeenyus:. · Jul 21, 2006

Well, for comparison....

One of my friends used to have a Nixion, but it is now sitting in his shed, cracked and dead, and he is buying a Pike as of tomorrow.

Go for the Pike, please, for your own sake.

profro · Jul 21, 2006

Its awesome how the internet never tells the "entire" truth.

The 2005 Nixons were rampant with problems.

The 2006 Intrinsic are much different and so far have a better reputation. The TPC+ are very solid.

The guy says he wants the RWT and you give him advice on the IT.

He says he wants the TPC+ and tell him about the Intrinsic and SPV.

I currently have a 2005 RS Pike Team. It has U turn and is coil. While it is a solid fork and the adjustment from 95 to 140 is pretty handy, no other fork has given me arm and hand pump like this. I ride it mostly as a trail fork with about 120mm of travel. It has a stiff chassis and I like the Maxle. But I'm switching to a Nixon TPC+.

I can never get the Pike tuned just like I want and the Flood Gate doesn't really do anything for me. The bike was a demo bike from lastyear that I picked up off my sponser. So it may need some servicing. But the damping quality just isn't good enough for me.

frorider · Jul 21, 2006

i have the coil Pike on my yeti 575, and have a TPC+ sherman breakout on another bike. really like the Pike. as others have mentioned, for the weight it's a stiff chassis. after i got the right spring rate and damping settings dialled in, it's been plush on the small stuff but fine on the drops. in fact i've racked up some miles of lift-served riding with it at Mammoth. no hand/arm pump issues for me. maybe that's because Mammoth has no rocks

so i'd vote Pike.

i have an SPV evolve manitou minute 1 that used to be on my supalight XC bike, but bought a RS reba that blows the minute 1 out of the water in every aspect. my next fork purchase will prolly be a long travel SC fork---the RS lyric, most likely. so i've gone from being a RS-hata to being a SRAM-RS-whore in the past year. :heart:

mandown · Jul 21, 2006

i cannot comment on the nixon. never been on one. i have been on other manitou products and not been fully happy with them. it may be bad set up (they were not my bikes).

i LOVE my pike race. i have not been on any other RS product before (only marzo). i bought this fork about 8 months ago for my IH Yakuza Bakuto. the combination has been wonderful. i don't know if i would run another fork on this bike. i mostly trail ride the thing and i don't do much jumping, so i cannot comment on it as a DJ machine.

sanjuro · Jul 21, 2006

blue said:
I'm talking about the coil Pike...not sure what the numbers are this year, but the differences between the model levels is so insignificant in regards to performance it doesn't matter to me. I'm planning on putting this on the new frame when the Ellsworth breaks, so longevity is a plus.

I've considered many a Marzo, but they don't have the travel adjustment features I'm looking for to make the bike more versatile.

I haven't heard of the slipping travel adjust...can you elaborate Sanjuro? It has RTWD, not Infinite Travel Adjust, not sure if they're different.

Most reviews I've read describe the Nixon Elite (TPC) as plush right out of the box, and I haven't seen many reviews about it actually breaking, aside from idiots casing drops to flat.

I was talking about the Nixon in general. The Infinite Travel (IT) is a good idea but I believe there was some leakage in the air cartridge which controls it and it would slip down.

The RTWD might be better, but if I am not mistaken, it is a plastic knob...

TPC seems to be a much more popular damping system than SPV, so I suppose you will be ok.

My biggest concern about buying any Manitou product is the flood of OEM forks in mailorder. I do believe there is a quality difference between those and ones you might buy directly from Answer.

SuspectDevice · Jul 21, 2006

I have an '06 Minute :04, which uses the same chassis as the Nixon. Beleive it or not I actually like it. I don't use the IT, and the SPV evolve really isn't too bad of a damping system for a trail bike that gets ridden hard. I would definetely not mind rocking one of the TPC+ Travis's, as in my experience the Manitou stuff that sucks comes broken out of the box. If it works out of the box it continues to work.

Just my 2 cents. I think I would rather run a dual air pike, as I really like the simplicity and tunability, and already have a huge pile of RS service parts If I need them.

OGRipper · Jul 21, 2006

Having been traumatized by a few manitous that felt like ass and were unreliable, I am going to give them at least two or three model years before trying again.

On the other hand I like my Pike 454 air u-turn so much I bought two.

OGDMFG · Jul 21, 2006

I have the one with springs , one tough fork demolished my p street frame, the damn thing just kept going strong plush just my opinion

toothless · Jul 21, 2006

I've been running an 05 nixon elite with tpc for a year and a half now. Having never tried a pike I can't compare the two but for me the Nixon has been a pretty decent fork. I did blow it up twice in the first couple months I had it but its been going strong since. Its a pretty good trailriding fork and it has to be among the lightest 20mm offerings out there. The RTWD on mine has never experienced any problems and I do use it quite frequently. One thing though, out of the box the fork is sprung for a small child. I'm only 170 lbs. and could bottom it out on climbs by leaning forward. I'm running the extra firm spring now and rarely bottom out but if you weigh much more than me, I'd say look elsewhere.

Tmeyer · Jul 21, 2006

Replaced an 05 66vf with an 06 pike 426 coil on my reign and really like it, great trail fork and very stiff to track through rocks as well. I have had bad experiences with every manipoo fork I've owned and really try to steer clear if possible. Good luck!!

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156152&highlight=pike

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