So, how is the Nomad on the XC trails....can you keep up riding with a bunch of XCs (if they do not ride at heart rate 210) ?
My Nomad handles that very well. I'm now passing up people of what I consider averabe climbing ability who, before, would be passing me up. It's not easy, though. I've got my rig as 35lbs, so it's a pig. The ETA on the Z1 helps, though. I had a lockout on my last bike, and this is a fork with more travel, and the bike still climbs better.So, how is the Nomad on the XC trails....can you keep up riding with a bunch of XCs (if they do not ride at heart rate 210) ?
how tall are you and what do you what size do you ride ??? got a parts spec of the bike ??My Nomad handles that very well. I'm now passing up people of what I consider averabe climbing ability who, before, would be passing me up. It's not easy, though. I've got my rig as 35lbs, so it's a pig. The ETA on the Z1 helps, though. I had a lockout on my last bike, and this is a fork with more travel, and the bike still climbs better.
If I had this built to about 30lbs or so, I think I'd be a heck of a lot faster.
A while back, I did an XC ride with one buddy that was riding a 41 pound Kona Stinky. The rest of us had sub-28 pound XC bikes and were not is such bad shape. However, he was still waiting for us at the top of the hill. Maybe he had something to prove. :biggrin:My Nomad handles that very well. I'm now passing up people of what I consider averabe climbing ability who, before, would be passing me up. It's not easy, though. I've got my rig as 35lbs, so it's a pig. The ETA on the Z1 helps, though. I had a lockout on my last bike, and this is a fork with more travel, and the bike still climbs better.
If I had this built to about 30lbs or so, I think I'd be a heck of a lot faster.
My Nomad rocks.....I love it.
Wonder that myself. The girl (Veronica) that owns the Sugarfree V10/Nomad rides faster than most guys over here...How would the Geo be messed up?
Uhhh... because you can't just slap a DC fork on a trailbike and expect that the numbers will magically work out. I would expect it would raise the BB too high.A guy here rides the Nomad on the German/Swiss iXS cup.
Fast as ****.
The SugarFree v10 is awsome and I bet it would kill on most DH tracks.
How would the Geo be messed up?
You more guessed than expected...(I guess)?Uhhh... because you can't just slap a DC fork on a trailbike and expect that the numbers will magically work out. I would expect it would raise the BB too high.
Doesnt matter if its a dc or a sc fork as long as the height isnt too bad.Uhhh... because you can't just slap a DC fork on a trailbike and expect that the numbers will magically work out. I would expect it would raise the BB too high.
Do they list BB heights? Either it will be too low in their "trail" mode, or it will be too high in their "DH" mode.You more guessed than expected...(I guess)?
From the Santa Cruz homepage:
The Nomad is designed around 140-180mm forks.
*140-150mm travel is optimal for those that want more of a trail bike feel.
*160-180mm travel is optimal for a slacker angles and better performance on rocky terrain or high speed.
Also on their homepage is complete FR setup suggestions.
Its a bit misleading since it has more travel/sag than other bikes.The v10 is listed at 14 3/4
Not only is the 6.6 not humped out, it has way better geometry. Lower BB, shorter WB, longer TT, shorter stays etc. Much better bike.
All the people I know who have gone to Nomads from Blurs seem to love them but all the people I know who have gone to Nomads from Enduros or DH bikes don't like the way they ride for the most part. Basically former XC types love the bike because to them it's the first long-legged bike they've owned and it pedals allright. But for people who know what a good solid freeride bike should handle like the Nomad is sort of funky.
I couldn't agree more about the top tube shape being silly, I've been an opponent of it since the first spy shots about a year ago or so.
Oh hell no. I love my ASX. It is seriously the best bike I have ever ridden. XC, DH, everything. Nothing to fix, nothing to upgrade, nothing to worry about, just grab the bike and go. Now that you got me started, I have to pimp it:SirChomps, are you looking to buy one of these things to replace your ASX?
dang. 14 3/8 is a managable BB height for sure. There are those who demand it lower. Personally, I run 14.0 on a 6 inch travel bike but I sometimes want lower.
The v10 is listed at 14 3/4
And 15 3/8 for a VP Free? WTF?
Thought there was a reason why you shouldn't like your Nomad, Sylent K, and now I know why - it rides like crap!
haven't seen that picture less than 10 times...Oh hell no. I love my ASX. It is seriously the best bike I have ever ridden. XC, DH, everything. Nothing to fix, nothing to upgrade, nothing to worry about, just grab the bike and go. Now that you got me started, I have to pimp it:
But have you seen THIS one?haven't seen that picture less than 10 times...
But have you seen THIS one?
You're just jealous cause you can't throw the mad one-footers like I can.Post some pics of you jumping it.
Those are usually pretty funny.
yea, i felt that my vp free was way too linear in the middle of its travel. once you get past the first few inches which are meant for pedaling, it blows. try diving into burms with it.DING DING DING!!!!
Anyone who says a nomad doesn't blow through its travel is on crack..................and mostly can't tell the difference between a progressive damper and a progressive linkage. I'd have loved to have spent less money on a nomad but they ride like crap.........so I had no choice but to get a 6.6.:biggrin:
You're just jealous cause you can't throw the mad one-footers like I can.
I'm 6'3", 180, ride a large.how tall are you and what do you what size do you ride ??? got a parts spec of the bike ??
cheers
Oh Kidwoo.......and I had so much respect for you:biggrin:DING DING DING!!!!
Anyone who says a nomad doesn't blow through its travel is on crack..................and mostly can't tell the difference between a progressive damper and a progressive linkage. I'd have loved to have spent less money on a nomad but they ride like crap.........so I had no choice but to get a 6.6.:biggrin:
Yeah and the problem is that it's bottomless at 2mph.Oh Kidwoo.......and I had so much respect for you:biggrin:
As with any other ride, it's all how you set it up. My Nomad feels bottomless, and I have experience with many other suspension designs. If there was one drawback to the VPP, it's that it's not quite as sensitive on small bumps as others, but it makes up for it with its bottomless feel.