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old bullit spring rate & tuning

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
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Montana
My buddy just got a 04-05 Bullit with a 5th Element. He weights 210-220. What spring rate and settings on the 5th should he start at? Ive never owned a 5th and he has no clue.

I know alot of you have owned or own a bullit. Help
 

Pat Tellier

Chimp
Sep 8, 2004
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Montreal, QC, Canada
If he uses that Bullit as an all-around bike, a 550lbs spring should be a good match so the bike can be pedaled decently. If he's mainly into downhill/freeride, he should be looking at a 500lbs.

The best base settings I've found on that bike is:
- Beginning stroke compression 1/2 turn from fully in
- Ending stroke compression in the middle, then open a 1/2 turn out
- Rebound on the slow side of things
- Pressure around 110psi, probably 125psi would be best for a big guy like him
- Volume 1/2 turn from fully out

That should provide a lively bike that will stick to the ground comfortably but with enough pop-up for spirited riding and hoping everywhere.
 

1453

Monkey
check this page

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/literature5thelement.html

that's the manual I went by.

tHe stock 5th elements use seemingly too low spring rates but they just work like that. When I upgraded my old Intense M1 to 5th from a blown RC, I went from a 700lb spring to a 350. Hey it worked. :D

If he uses that Bullit as an all-around bike, a 550lbs spring should be a good match so the bike can be pedaled decently. If he's mainly into downhill/freeride, he should be looking at a 500lbs.
I tried a 500 spring on the bullit and it was wayyyy too springy. YMMV.
 
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Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
Thanks, Im printing those off right now.

The Bullit is an 04. How much travel and what is the shock size?

Anyone else have info on which spring to use? He has a 425 and a 325.
 

1453

Monkey
04....I think they advertised around 170mm travel for those years(2nd gen Bullits) but ended up being(I think) 6.75 inches of travel with a 8.5x2.5 shock and a little more with 8.75x2.75. If he is 220 I would go with the 425 first.
 

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
I read where you can run a 9x3 and if you remove the shuttle. Crazy.

My buddy wants a 6.75" travel bike so I hope its the 8.5x2.5.


Is the 425 gonna be enough?
 

1453

Monkey
the 9x3 shocks work(I heard) but I would suggest checking the tire clearance on the seat tube first, since removing the shuttle means that the shock ending stroke is a half inch more forward than with the 2.5 inch stroke shock.

425 *should* be enough since the 240 lb weight needs aroudn 400, but all the disclaimers apply(YMMV, may vary with riding style, yada yada yada)