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You add G. Gordon Liddy, or a second shooter on the grassy knoll, to your theory and I might get on board with you.My Theory
Every one in the league has been doing this for ever.
Belicheck positioned the cameraman INTENTIONALLY to be caught. so it would be out in the open and from this point on people whould be watching the Games like hawks looking for Both sides taping. ( Belicheck didn't want his signals being taped ).
League is Pissed off at Belicheck for letting there dirty little secret out. so they Punish him saying its for the taping, but in reality it is for breaking Unwritten rules, and tell him he must keep his trap shut about it.
NFL destroys all the tapes so there is no evidence showing that all the teams have been doing this forever! and Just hopes this will fade away into a bad memory.
some Bozo congressman decided to butt his nose into it again and now the can of worms has been opened.
Yeah that's the ticket.My Theory
Every one in the league has been doing this for ever.
Belicheck positioned the cameraman INTENTIONALLY to be caught. so it would be out in the open and from this point on people whould be watching the Games like hawks looking for Both sides taping. ( Belicheck didn't want his signals being taped ).
League is Pissed off at Belicheck for letting there dirty little secret out. so they Punish him saying its for the taping, but in reality it is for breaking Unwritten rules, and tell him he must keep his trap shut about it.
NFL destroys all the tapes so there is no evidence showing that all the teams have been doing this forever! and Just hopes this will fade away into a bad memory.
some Bozo congressman decided to butt his nose into it again and now the can of worms has been opened.
And your point is ? You Think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone ?? No way an Italian Carcano rifle can be accuratly fired that fast . and then the Single bullet theory , what a crock.You add G. Gordon Liddy, or a second shooter on the grassy knoll, to your theory and I might get on board with you.
Maybe I chose a bad example and should have used Area 51 or something.And your point is ? You Think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone ?? No way an Italian Carcano rifle can be accuratly fired that fast . and then the Single bullet theory , what a crock.
i plan to also raise my children so that they do not become douchebags who think that roadies are the scum of cycling...I like how everyone feels that it's not that bad since "Everyone else was doing it". Please tell me none of you have kids. If so, try to raise them with a much higher respect for morals than you have yourselves. I suppose now we're gonna say it's ok to be a roadie since there's so many of them already. Jeez....
I couldn't agree more. When all this first came out plenty of other coaches admitted to doing it or acknowledged that it was going on. Just like baseball knew guys were juicing.My Theory
Every one in the league has been doing this for ever.
Belicheck positioned the cameraman INTENTIONALLY to be caught. so it would be out in the open and from this point on people whould be watching the Games like hawks looking for Both sides taping. ( Belicheck didn't want his signals being taped ).
League is Pissed off at Belicheck for letting there dirty little secret out. so they Punish him saying its for the taping, but in reality it is for breaking Unwritten rules, and tell him he must keep his trap shut about it.
NFL destroys all the tapes so there is no evidence showing that all the teams have been doing this forever! and Just hopes this will fade away into a bad memory.
some Bozo congressman decided to butt his nose into it again and now the can of worms has been opened.
Oh really? Which coaches (more than 1) specifically admitted to this?I couldn't agree more. When all this first came out plenty of other coaches admitted to doing it or acknowledged that it was going on. Just like baseball knew guys were juicing.
Links? Which walktrough practices before which games did they tape? BTW, the "stealing signals" part of spygate came and went.bill cowher
don shula
tom landry
john madden
You should have thrown Ditka on that list for grins.that chain tension around yr neck is because i'm tugging the other side.
Blasphemy!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:You should have thrown Ditka on that list for grins.
Links? Which walktrough practices before which games did they tape? BTW, the "stealing signals" part of spygate came and went.
Every knows that coaches and scouts read lips, so all coaches talk with their playsheets covering their mouths.My Theory
Every one in the league has been doing this for ever.
Belicheck positioned the cameraman INTENTIONALLY to be caught. so it would be out in the open and from this point on people whould be watching the Games like hawks looking for Both sides taping. ( Belicheck didn't want his signals being taped ).
League is Pissed off at Belicheck for letting there dirty little secret out. so they Punish him saying its for the taping, but in reality it is for breaking Unwritten rules, and tell him he must keep his trap shut about it.
NFL destroys all the tapes so there is no evidence showing that all the teams have been doing this forever! and Just hopes this will fade away into a bad memory.
some Bozo congressman decided to butt his nose into it again and now the can of worms has been opened.
err, yeah...Every knows that coaches and scouts read lips, so all the coaches talk with their playsheets covering their mouths.
So if everyone cheats by taping practices, why would you ever have an outdoor practice?
I never understood "stealing signs", especially in baseball. If your signals are predictable by gametime observation, whose fault is that? But taping practices is going over the boundaries of the rules. That's cheating.
Acyually , more and more teams, during the season are having indoor practices.So if everyone cheats by taping practices, why would you ever have an outdoor practice?
Considering that they are posting in this thread, I would say the overlap is great.it's probably just you.
i can't imagine there's much of an overlap between the fandom of the two sports.
Hope you had fun typing all that, because like I said in the post you quoted, the "stealing signals" part of this thing was just the tip of the ice berg, and isn't an issue any longer, although the insistence of Pats' fans to try and justify it is nearly as sickening as the original action itself. Who cares if your cheater team made it to the SB? They got smashed anyway when they couldn't cheat.A quote from Peter King,
Peter said it is "hard to blame Mangini" for what happened, but Many NFL coaches view Mangini as "a skunk" "a rat fink" and "disloyal". One NFL coach Peter talked to went into a profanity laced diatribe critizing Mangini. Peter said that "there is a good chance that the Jets had a camera trained on Patriot coaches last Sunday". One coach, Ravens Defensive Coordinator Ryan went on the record with King and said when Mangini comes to town they know he is going to be stealing signals and taping so they use different signals, different color bands, and different people to give the signals. Peter said many coaches believe Mangini is self righteous, a hypocrite, and is likley doing the same thing as the Pats right now, just not as brazenly as the Pats coach. Ryan went on to say that the Ravens give a lot of phony signals "because too many teams are stealing signs". Peter said that while working for Coach B, Mangini "likely knew everything" that was going on.
The other one I recall,but can't find a direct quote was Jimmy Johson who admitted to it and said everyone was.
Now I never said it was right and no I don't agree with it. I actually am disappointed by it as a Patriots fan. But the hipocracy of everyone who is villifying Bellicheck for it when hes just the only one to get caught is sad. Also to say that Bellicheck can't win without cheating is just a crock. This happened in the first game of the season and the Pats were under a microscope from that moment on and they went undefeated all the way to the superbowl. Lets see your team do that next season??lthumbsdown:
Who cares if your cheater team made it to the SB? They got smashed anyway when they couldn't cheat.
Clearly the people posting in this thread are entertained to varying extents by the sport. If you dont like it, or dont care, how about going about your business instead of wasting your, and our time, letting us know how you don't care or that you "LOL" at other people? I mean it would easily be more efficient for both of us. Why do I care if you dont care? Why do post if you dont care? What makes your cares any more valid? How about STFU?You ever stop to think that the reason congress is worried about this **** is that they are just trying to distract us from what they aren't doing.
Give me a ****ing break. Who cares. It's just football. It makes me lol to see people get their lifes all wrapped up in it.
Would you please post a picture of your tinfoil hat?You ever stop to think that the reason congress is worried about this **** is that they are just trying to distract us from what they aren't doing.
Give me a ****ing break. Who cares. It's just football. It makes me lol to see people get their lifes all wrapped up in it.
Uh...So there is a "war" going on, the economy is recessed and congress is investigating if a football team is cheating?Would you please post a picture of your tinfoil hat?
Then what was going on when the Pete Rose "scandal" broke? If there is any real justification for interest who's cheating, ask the bookies in Vegas who make serious ca$h especially during big games like the Superbowl or World Series. If you can affect the outcome of an event they can lay odds on, you stand to make quite the tidy sum.Uh...So there is a "war" going on, the economy is recessed and congress is investigating if a football team is cheating?
The Patriots pattern of illicitly videotaping the signals of opposing N.F.L. coaches began in Coach Bill Belichicks first preseason with the team in 2000, a former Patriots player said. The information was put to use in that years regular-season opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Belichicks debut as New Englands coach.
I go with 2 , but if 2 is correct doesn't that make #1 true by default ?Which one is more correct:
1. Pats are cheaters, period.
2. Everyone did it, Pats were much better at it.
If it wasn't explicitly against the rules, then no?I go with 2 , but if 2 is correct doesn't that make #1 true by default ?
.....If it wasn't explicitly against the rules, then no?
The rules are very, very clear, said Tennessee Titans Coach Jeff Fisher, a committee member. There is no need to be more specific or clarify any rules whatsoever.