They should include a heavy duty chainstay instead.
Pivot DH bike
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They should include a heavy duty chainstay instead.
Or allow people to choose their own...
Sicklines has some nice detail shots. Excellent CNC work, cool replaceable drops, and it looks like the shock is accessed from the from vs. the sunday from the rear. One of my beefs with that bike is the difficulty in accessing the adjustments. This should make it easier albeit a little dirtier. Maybe a glory hole cover?
Id assume they will have atleast 2 sizes and be in the current crop of frame prices. It will be nice to finally see the numbers on this.
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Yeah cool frame and all i hope it has a competetive price
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LOLIm pretty excited myself LOOKS alot stiffer and more stout then the Sunday which will be a welcome addition...
Censored for public consumption?
Its all E-speculation till the press release!
Well, they certainly shut me up. Hell of a nice looking bike.
Rep for the Captain!!
Definitely Sunday"ish", but overall, I like the bike, but it is somewhat ironic (or would be coincidental) that it's named a Phoenix?
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Looks like a pinch point between the lower link and the frame as the suspension compresses - right where mud will collect as well. Looks crunchy.
Oh, and shock controls look very inaccessible.
Not bad overall though.
Not bad overall though.
Pretty sure the sunday is more than adequately stiff (noticeably moreso than some other highend frames), and I think it's up there with the best for frames sold vs frames broken ratio. Not really sure what your post is trying to say.
didja look at the photos? the shock sits in a tube that is accessible from the top and bottom...should be better than the sunday and much like a glory.1 in shock arrangement.
Super excited to see that it has a linear to progressive shock rate. More bikes need progressive rate linkages...tasty. I just want to see a price estimate....Jan availability puts it way far out.
Yeah, I looked, and it still looks pretty inaccessable. Preload? Forget it. Fox bottom out barrel adjuster? Doubtful (gotta use an allen from the side for that one). CCDB adjusters? Maybe, but again doubtful, looks tight in that area.
And the more open that bottom section is for shock adjustment, the more those fiddly knobs are going to get loaded with mud from the front tire...
Might be better if you can flip the shock right-side up.
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If the bottom part is as open as the top, then reaching the adjusters should be a snap for most shock offerings. That tube looks pretty big and it looks like it would be easy enough to find a way to cover the bottom hole. Who knows, Pivot might actually offer that.
I am curious to see exactly how the lower link is attached to the front triangle. You can't run an axle through there or it will hit part of the shock and it doesn't look like there is much material in that area. Hard to say though based on the pictures available.
The dropouts look really nice. They could easily develop a G2 type drop out adjust BB height and HA if they wanted.
I am curious to see exactly how the lower link is attached to the front triangle. You can't run an axle through there or it will hit part of the shock and it doesn't look like there is much material in that area. Hard to say though based on the pictures available.
The dropouts look really nice. They could easily develop a G2 type drop out adjust BB height and HA if they wanted.
"The head tube, chainstay length, and bottom-bracket height are all adjustable..."
true...
High resolution pics and info on Vital.
http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/2011-Pivot-Phoenix-DH-Bike,1327/Machining-the-link,7237/bturman,109
http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/2011-Pivot-Phoenix-DH-Bike,1327/Machining-the-link,7237/bturman,109
those hs/ls adjustments will be a bit tough
Quoted from speedgoat:
"All damping adjustments on the stock Fox RC4 shock are accessible."
Bike looks tasty see which comes first this, m9, nicos lapierre 920, new DHR...
"All damping adjustments on the stock Fox RC4 shock are accessible."
Bike looks tasty see which comes first this, m9, nicos lapierre 920, new DHR...
Could someone please map the rear wheels travel path, and post it up
I want that bike, slap the avy on it and beat it regularly!!!! I want to ride that thing, I like the black and green ALOT......
Pfft Aluminium? Where's the CF version?
(above smart arse statement added to keep S happy)
Can DW give us a run down on the tweaks in wheel path etc compared to his "old skool" Sunday DW?
(above smart arse statement added to keep S happy)
Can DW give us a run down on the tweaks in wheel path etc compared to his "old skool" Sunday DW?
I'm sure that the anti squat profile is 100% tactical.
eh, a little peephole condom would work great there. just a little plastic cap to snap on. looks less accessible than I had hoped, but I guess that depends on what shock you run.
on that particular shock, the only thing you cant adjust is the preload collar.
a CCDB would be a pain to try and turn that wrench in that lilttle opening
I wonder how much it ramps up at the end and how far into the stroke. I've grown to love the linear nature of my Yeti, the fork and rear shock feel more equally balanced then any other DH bike I've spent time on and I'm not running into bottom out issues.
They state that it is the exact opposite of a Sunday so I am guessing not too much ramp up. I sort of get the impression that it has been designed to take better advantage of today's shock options which would make perfect sense. Hmmm , when my Sunday dies ( if ever ) I think I just found its replacement
you got it the wrong way around. The sunday was ment to take advantage of the shock tecnology back then in order to ramp up. On this one, they wanted it to mecanically ramp up, thus really creating a progressive curve to the compression of the shock, so to make it feel like it really is progressive... Theres not a single sunday I have gotten on that doesnt easily bottom out, hope the pheonix will redime thisThey state that it is the exact opposite of a Sunday so I am guessing not too much ramp up. I sort of get the impression that it has been designed to take better advantage of today's shock options which would make perfect sense. Hmmm , when my Sunday dies ( if ever ) I think I just found its replacement
It probably wont smack the seat so muchThey state that it is the exact opposite of a Sunday so I am guessing not too much ramp up. I sort of get the impression that it has been designed to take better advantage of today's shock options which would make perfect sense. Hmmm , when my Sunday dies ( if ever ) I think I just found its replacement
