It probably wont smack the seat so much
Yeah I adjusted the post up a bit, as long as I don't get any a$$ love I'll be gold
Pivot DH bike
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Yeah I adjusted the post up a bit, as long as I don't get any a$$ love I'll be gold
Totally agree. I guess I didn't explain it very well. My understanding is the regressive curve on a Sunday is relatively small thus the progressive curve of the Pivot should not be too significant ( assuming it does mirror a Sunday ). The idea being you can utilise the superior compression damping adjustments of current shocks without having to wind the crap out of boost valves etc Eg: RC4 vs DHX 5.0. My understanding is the Sunday was originally designed to compliment the characteristics of a 5th Element shock which is significantly different than a DHX for example and the reason many Sundays with DHX's blow through their travel ( a DHX is a common fitment ). A particular problem when people insist on dumping ALL the air out of their DHX's for better small bump compliance ( the groms over here do this all the time
). The RC4 on the other hand seems to have gathered a reputation for being slightly progressive and should compliment the Pivot nicely.I would love to have one of these frames fitted with a Boxxer WC , for me they would compliment each other nicely.
Did that make any sense or am I a totally lost cause?
I think it's a bit simpler than that - the Sunday was progressive to linear, the Pivot is linear to progressive.Totally agree. I guess I didn't explain it very well. My understanding is the regressive curve on a Sunday is relatively small thus the progressive curve of the Pivot should not be too significant ( assuming it does mirror a Sunday ). The idea being you can utilise the superior compression damping adjustments of current shocks without having to wind the crap out of boost valves etc Eg: RC4 vs DHX 5.0. My understanding is the Sunday was originally designed to compliment the characteristics of a 5th Element shock which is significantly different than a DHX for example and the reason many Sundays with DHX's blow through their travel ( a DHX is a common fitment ). A particular problem when people insist on dumping ALL the air out of their DHX's for better small bump compliance ( the groms over here do this all the time
I would love to have one of these frames fitted with a Boxxer WC , for me they would compliment each other nicely.
Did that make any sense or am I a totally lost cause?
From what DW's said, the original intent of the Sunday was to have a progressive-linear-progressive compression damping rate at the wheel which was achieved by overlaying the highly progressive 5th Element damper rate with the progressive to linear leverage rate. The new DHR and Revolt apparently have similar wheel rates in that regard, but with of the 2nd stage of the damping progression provided by the linkage/leverage rate rather than the shock itself.
Well said Socket, the first line sums it up nicely
Ok, don't kill the messenger please. I did it the best I can and I Know it's not Accurate...
The Leverage Ratio looks good, it doesn`t have a regresive final.
The Anti-squat curve looks different from any other DW-Link Bike, I don't know if I'm wrong or if DW is trying new things...
The Leverage Ratio looks good, it doesn`t have a regresive final.
The Anti-squat curve looks different from any other DW-Link Bike, I don't know if I'm wrong or if DW is trying new things...
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Ahhh, so, what a Sunday leverage curve was advertised to be, but never was. Cool.
The headset is going to be cool. From what I'm piecing together based on info release dates, Cane Creek has stated they are debuting a new product in June and hinted it's on the Pivot DH bike now, same date as the mention of the headset on the Pivot in that speedgoat article. DH specific adjustable 1.5" headset is what e-nerd gods are saying.
Cane Creek's also been putting stuff online regarding ALOT of trips to the Ohlins facility of late and a release of big news in the fall.
I'll fan the flames of this rumor: it's going to be a DH fork...or an espresso maker.
that rumor has been around for years. itll never happen
that sucks! i was hoping to trick out my new carbon split pivot dw-dhr with e13 pedals and a CC espresso maker.
what cranks you gonna use?
e.thirteen with threadless pedal inserts I hope.
As we've discussed before, accuracy is pretty critical when it comes to short-link suspension systems in Linkage... seriously kids please put the toys away unless you're prepared to use them properly.
RC added a bit more text about the test ride they did in Moab over on MBA website. Sounds like he liked it.
What!? Garbage in, garbage out? No way
Per the Pivot site, $2999.
2999.99
He likes everyone who buy ads in his mag.
With the distributor in Quebec and a local dealer that is a bunch of raging douche bags I'll buy one in the US if I pick one up.