use both codes to knock it down to $62.00Booo, they just upped the base price on the black ones from $80 to $120. No impacts for me.
I know, that's why I tagged you.E13? lol.
Thanks for thinking of me but I wouldn't touch any of their products. Not even with someone else's big long shitty stick.
Most of my bikes are on 10spd drivetrains so I'm still paying £30ish for cassettes. (occasionally as little as £10)
Agreed, although it could be the toe box padding not getting packed out yet on the fresh Adidas ones.I have a pair of before-Adidas Five Ten Impact pros and a pair of just-received-from-Adidas Impact Pros, both 10.5. The older feels very slightly roomier, but we’re talking like wearing thicker socks before because they felt a bit too roomy to my tastes to now they’re perfect. I usually prefer wide toe boxes and I don’t have much arch left.
FYI the purple ones are women's. That's probably why the feel so different in size.View attachment 206068
discounted 5.10s arrived via Fedex
as per my recollection from trying post-Adidas before they run a bit small and narrow, and the whole shell, if you will, feels stiff. Very glad I sized up.
These are snug in the forefoot but I think they’ll stretch a bit. And my old Impacts are really dead.
I was wondering why the tag said WFYI the purple ones are women's. That's probably why the feel so different in size.
Totally in line with the logic of the imperial systemit's about one size different between mens and womens sizing
I don't think any country gets a pass on shoe sizes, given none of them are directly comparable across brands. Euro sizes are just as meaningless. Sounds like time for a new standard!
The only size system that ends up fairly consistent is ski boot sizing. For length at least, I can somewhat reliably measure my foot in CM then add 0.5-1 depending on how roomy I want them or thick of liners I'm planning on using.I don't think any country gets a pass on shoe sizes, given none of them are directly comparable across brands. Euro sizes are just as meaningless. Sounds like time for a new standard!
for length then Mondo isn't bad. but volume and width matter a ton and those are poorly captured by last width measurements and the like.The only size system that ends up fairly consistent is ski boot sizing. For length at least, I can somewhat reliably measure my foot in CM then add 0.5-1 depending on how roomy I want them or thick of liners I'm planning on using.
29", nope, nope, nope.$999 for a US made frame, WO shock-
Yeah that's fair, they are pretty boring to ride unless you are doing a million miles an hour, and I don't have the balls for that.29", nope, nope, nope.
Wait a second, both JBP and Woo betrayed the 26-er community and ride larger wheelsizes. A slippery slope into the abyss if you ask me....have we uncovered @kidwoo 's alter ego?
full 27.5 is kind of a dying breed. There’s more than 1 bike company that carries a full line of bikes and doesn’t have a full 27.5. Only full 29ers and mullets.feels like resistance to 29" is futile. when Pinkbike says shit like "what with 27.5" wheels becoming something of a dying breed ", idiots will believe them and take it as gospel. gah. I don't want to ride 29" gaddommit.![]()
I know... and that's what I lament. it also seems mullet bikes tend to be focused on the gravity end of things (DH, freeride, enduro). the sad reality is that I can only afford one bike, and a trailbike is best suited to the terrain I have around me. but I still like to have fun on my bike, am not concerned with going as fast as possible, and don't want to lug around the extra weight of a heavy-duty 29" rear wheel and tire (for no real benefit). But it is what it is I guess.full 27.5 is kind of a dying breed. There’s more than 1 bike company that carries a full line of bikes and doesn’t have a full 27.5. Only full 29ers and mullets.
you could always just keep the bike you have. Not buying a new bike every few years would really stick it to the lizard people.I know... and that's what I lament. it also seems mullet bikes tend to be focused on the gravity end of things (DH, freeride, enduro). the sad reality is that I can only afford one bike, and a trailbike is best suited to the terrain I have around me. but I still like to have fun on my bike, am not concerned with going as fast as possible, and don't want to lug around the extra weight of a heavy-duty 29" rear wheel and tire (for no real benefit). But it is what it is I guess.
that's fully my intention! while it's not the newest (2016 Transition Patrol), the numbers are still really relevant. I seem to be able to procure stays as needed (I'm on my 3rd set of each at the moment), and otherwise I've got all the parts I want on it. So as long as the front triangle stays in one piece, I'm going to keep riding this bike. I thoroughly enjoy it.you could always just keep the bike you have. Not buying a new bike every few years would really stick it to the lizard people.
Just curious, what are "relevant numbers"? When a bike worked for you 10 years ago on your local trails, what does a "newer geometry" achieve? All I have seen is that the newer bikes cater to pro racers riding trails that I don't at a speed that I can only dream of. Why would their geo numbers, suspension settings, etc. help me ride my local trails better? Most importantly, if I do not race, how much more or less fun would they be? Considering how many folks over on Vital considered I am crazy for mentioning that you can feel 100 g more weight in a tire, I seriously question how they will feel a degree slacker HA, 5 mm lower BB or 1 click more compression damping. My guess is that the majority of folks just read the marketing blurb and after being told that this incremental change makes them ride 20% faster, they just believe it. Not saying this includes everybody, there are certainly persons that are able to dissect the nuances of their setup and optimze them for their use case. Sadly most are just delusional and think they are as fast as Bruni and NEED his settings and geometry to be even able to ride their blue flow trail.that's fully my intention! while it's not the newest (2016 Transition Patrol), the numbers are still really relevant. I seem to be able to procure stays as needed (I'm on my 3rd set of each at the moment), and otherwise I've got all the parts I want on it. So as long as the front triangle stays in one piece, I'm going to keep riding this bike. I thoroughly enjoy it.
I'm sure the short translation is that its relevant, as in he still enjoys riding the bike.Just curious, what are "relevant numbers"? When a bike worked for you 10 years ago on your local trails, what does a "newer geometry" achieve? All I have seen is that the newer bikes cater to pro racers riding trails that I don't at a speed that I can only dream of. Why would their geo numbers, suspension settings, etc. help me ride my local trails better? Most importantly, if I do not race, how much more or less fun would they be? Considering how many folks over on Vital considered I am crazy for mentioning that you can feel 100 g more weight in a tire, I seriously question how they will feel a degree slacker HA, 5 mm lower BB or 1 click more compression damping. My guess is that the majority of folks just read the marketing blurb and after being told that this incremental change makes them ride 20% faster, they just believe it. Not saying this includes everybody, there are certainly persons that are able to dissect the nuances of their setup and optimze them for their use case. Sadly most are just delusional and think they are as fast as Bruni and NEED his settings and geometry to be even able to ride their blue flow trail.
Mixed wheels is the way to go. The best, or worst, of both worlds and with a few hacks you could probably change it back to full 27.5.that's fully my intention! while it's not the newest (2016 Transition Patrol), the numbers are still really relevant. I seem to be able to procure stays as needed (I'm on my 3rd set of each at the moment), and otherwise I've got all the parts I want on it. So as long as the front triangle stays in one piece, I'm going to keep riding this bike. I thoroughly enjoy it.
for me, with a long torso and wanting as low a standover as possible, i always felt cramped on bikes from 10ish years ago, no matter how well they worked. the recent longer/lower frames definitely suit me better. maybe the same for @slyfink ?Just curious, what are "relevant numbers"? When a bike worked for you 10 years ago on your local trails, what does a "newer geometry" achieve? All I have seen is that the newer bikes cater to pro racers riding trails that I don't at a speed that I can only dream of. Why would their geo numbers, suspension settings, etc. help me ride my local trails better? Most importantly, if I do not race, how much more or less fun would they be? Considering how many folks over on Vital considered I am crazy for mentioning that you can feel 100 g more weight in a tire, I seriously question how they will feel a degree slacker HA, 5 mm lower BB or 1 click more compression damping. My guess is that the majority of folks just read the marketing blurb and after being told that this incremental change makes them ride 20% faster, they just believe it. Not saying this includes everybody, there are certainly persons that are able to dissect the nuances of their setup and optimze them for their use case. Sadly most are just delusional and think they are as fast as Bruni and NEED his settings and geometry to be even able to ride their blue flow trail.
In my mind, relevant #s are HTA, STA, chain stay length and reach. Even though it's a 2016, my bike was at forefront of the long, low and slack trend. Many of the new bikes I look at have a 65° HTA, 77 or 78% STA, 430-440 chain stays and approximately 450mm reach (not going to get into BB drop, as that seems mostly relevant to 29s!).Just curious, what are "relevant numbers"? When a bike worked for you 10 years ago on your local trails, what does a "newer geometry" achieve? All I have seen is that the newer bikes cater to pro racers riding trails that I don't at a speed that I can only dream of. Why would their geo numbers, suspension settings, etc. help me ride my local trails better? Most importantly, if I do not race, how much more or less fun would they be? Considering how many folks over on Vital considered I am crazy for mentioning that you can feel 100 g more weight in a tire, I seriously question how they will feel a degree slacker HA, 5 mm lower BB or 1 click more compression damping. My guess is that the majority of folks just read the marketing blurb and after being told that this incremental change makes them ride 20% faster, they just believe it. Not saying this includes everybody, there are certainly persons that are able to dissect the nuances of their setup and optimze them for their use case. Sadly most are just delusional and think they are as fast as Bruni and NEED his settings and geometry to be even able to ride their blue flow trail.
I looked into that when I "needed" to get a new fork. But I was worried the BB would be too high and STA would drop into the too slack category - it's already borderline... That, plus I kinda like the idea of being able to swap less used front tire to the back wheel and keep new, fresh rubber on the front... I also didn't really like the idea of playing with offset bushings.Mixed wheels is the way to go. The best, or worst, of both worlds and with a few hacks you could probably change it back to full 27.5.![]()
I pretty much quit mountainbiking because of the industry forcing of 29" wheels just fyiWait a second, both JBP and Woo betrayed the 26-er community and ride larger wheelsizes.
I guess the trails built to cater to the 29-er crowd was the second reason.I pretty much quit mountainbiking because of the industry forcing of 29" wheels just fyi
I don't know that that's 29er driven, but the supposed 'mtb advocates' definitely started fucking up good trails, and new ones being built are mostly garbage. I guess road bike wheels do carry speed better over 5% grades....but then suck in the preponderance of switchbacks that get built because people are scared to build trails that go downhill anymore.I guess the trails built to cater to the 29-er crowd was the second reason.