Has anyone sent their dhx off to Push? Was the difference noticable? How much better did the shock perform?
and the glowing reports come from people affiliated with PUSH. . . . blah, blah, blah. same story different day.Most of the negative opinions you may hear from others about the pushed dhx are from folks who never have spent any time on one, or who claim to but haven't, including an over-zealous moderator at this website.
sounds fishy to me...I'm on a different bike (vpfree) w/ an aftermarket dhx5, but running the same settings as you and I have to really screw the pooch to hit bottom and even then its not harsh. Eg: got a little excited and totally overcooked the drop off the container boxes up on garb, missed the tranny completely...I'm sure I bottomed, but it was controlled, no clank or anything nasty. I suspect you're right about needing a quick tune up before next season.Its a Sunday and its Sunday tuned not after market purchase. Max bottom out, 100-110 psi, no propedal and rebound depending on track.
As an example if I just hit the small step up coming out of Dirt Merchant into A-line intesection it would blow through the travel if I hit the step up full speed. Same think at Diablo where on the US Open course you go down over a big rock and after that there is a little drop maybe 1-2 feet you hit with high speed and it bottoms out. I have only been able to avoid this with more gentle approach but who wants to be gentle when you ride DH
I call BS.The difference is very noticeable, if you are sensitive to shock performance. "pushing" your dhx will eliminate the spiking that occurs on high speed, chattery terrain. The propedal and boost systems on the stock dhx do interact, regardless of what fox claims; that creates the spiking problem.
I forgot to mention that general lee was particularly critical of my comments last time I responded to a similar question. My quote above stands. I just don't know why ignorant haters feel so strongly about their causes. Enjoy your shock, I enjoy mine. Have a nice day ladies.Most of the negative opinions you may hear from others about the pushed dhx are from folks who never have spent any time on one, or who claim to but haven't, including an over-zealous moderator at this website.
I would bottom my Roco shock on my 7Point on that compression before the step up too. The shock set up seemed perfect everywhere else except that compression. Maybe the speed of compression was above any low speed damping, but below any high speed damping settings?As an example if I just hit the small step up coming out of Dirt Merchant into A-line intesection it would blow through the travel if I hit the step up full speed.
Yes, and then you continue vasting our time with lesssons about how to evaluate suspension.Wow, an opinion from somebody who actually has a pushed dhx. How refreshing.
Its an empty beer thing. They cherish sitting around all day and debating tiny changes in their suspension. Check out the Turner forum over there for verifiable proof.Arhhh give me a break you are the one who brought up haters.
Its a forum and there will always be people for and against. If the reader is not smart enough to know that so be it.
me and my mate had that same observation at a race with some drop too. on the hard hits the compression works really nicely, but on mid speed stuff it just blows through it travel. i guess this is what ppl were complaning the dhx lacking mid stroke compression.There has been some info on this and there is a long thread from somebody who had his DHX Pushed for his Sunday but I would love to hear from more people too as I think my DHX needs a tune up before the season starts.
My only complaint has been the buttom out is harsh due to the small bumper and then some strang buttom out on smallish hits/drops like its blows through its travel like there is no spring. All other conditions and big hits no problem.
Sadly, the real truth is that the best you know is the best you've ridden, and the analogy to Jr T vs 888 is right on the money. It's a lot like those people who say that Turners now are just overpriced Konas because the rear suspension looks the same. Strangely, after riding a Kona and a Turner with rear and front suspensions set up the same, it becomes pretty hard to see how someone could say they're the same thing. They ride nothing alike, other than the fact that both are MTBs.Yes, and then you continue vasting our time with lesssons about how to evaluate suspension.
CBJ, one of the many things that are done to your dhx at PUSH is that they replace the bottom out bumper. If I recall correctly, there are allmost a dozen different "durometers" of bumper to choose from, based on your weight and riding style. Their bumper is not an afterthought, it is part of the system. It's meant to kick in earlier in the stroke than the stock bumper, and the material is progressive in it's compression. I used the word durometer liberally, because the bumper is not rubber, but a proprietary compound.Back on topic: It seems like I am not the only one with the bottom out problems and what I was trying to find was out how a pushed DHX behaves where I have experience problems with the DHX.
Interesting - that alone sounds like a good upgrade. I wonder if they sell this with the rebuild or only with the tuning system. I like Udi I like to have the stock adjustments on the DHX for differnet kinds of setup (freeride before the lifts open, normal East Coast DH and then Whistler/B.C. riding)
yeah... though big, the 5th bumpers are pretty soft/flexable. just turn the rebound dial in all the way... and maybe use some KY or astroglideSo its can slide on without a problem - interesting. Wish the Swinger would work as I have a spare Swinger for my Sunday.
oh yea, what bike do you ride? not that i think it makes a difference, coz my bike is a commencal and my mates is a sunday.Back on topic: It seems like I am not the only one with the bottom out problems and what I was trying to find was out how a pushed DHX behaves where I have experience problems with the DHX.
I'll be trying a mojo DHX in a few weeks hopefully. From what I understand they don't do much to it besides a fully custom tune (shims/valving etc). Fox can do much the same thing, but they don't do a fully custom one. They change stuff in sets going by riding type and weight, whereas mojo will do it on an individual rider basis. At least this is what I understand?i wonder whether anyone has tried a mojo dhx?? not too sure about teory about slow rebound and dh bikes being the same as mx bike tho...