[maxyedor]

Jetboil is the ideal camp stove for those who leave their camp stove at camp and instead drive their Sportsmobile or JK w/ "expedition trailer" 20 minutes to Starbucks to get a Chai Latte and a ham foldover.

Bought one 10 years ago, it sucked, gave it to my brother, who in turn gave it away. For backpacking, my Primus white-gas stove kicks ass, for anything car/truck based, I have an old school Coleman dual burner stove.

 

[StiHacka]

When you survive on beer, flamey gadgets are unnecessary.

 

[jdcamb]

When you survive on beer, flamey gadgets are unnecessary.

Everything you need can be cooked with a set of Pudgie Irons in a campfire anyways...

 

[jonKranked]

Everything you need can be cooked with a set of Pudgie Irons in a campfire anyways...

rice?

 

[Jim Mac]

reminds me of:

 

[Pesqueeb]

MSR stoves rarely got returned for failure. I had a whisperlight for 15 years before a fuel line cracked.

I bought a whisperlight before I was old enough to drive. Sill take it everywhere.

 

[SkaredShtles]

I bought a whisperlight before I was old enough to drive. Sill take it everywhere.

I've had mine since... 1991?

 

[jdcamb]

rice?

I don't usually cook rice while I am camping.

 

[jonKranked]

I don't usually cook rice while I am camping.

soup.

 

[Westy]

soup.

Not much. 'soup with you?

 

[jonKranked]

Not much. 'soup with you?

i'm just listing things JD can't do with a pie iron

 

[StiHacka]

soup.

beer >> soup

 

[jonKranked]

beer >> soup

can't make beer in a pie iron either

 

[StiHacka]

can't make beer in a pie iron either

Exactly.

 

[jdcamb]

i'm just listing things JD can't do with a pie iron

Take the pudgie iron and wedge some rocks or logs so that it can hold a pan or pot over the campfire. Works like a champ for cream of wheat also....

 

[SkaredShtles]

beer >> soup

I sure do like me some beer-cheese soup.

 

[DirtyMike]

I guess I should say I have a 19.95 generic stove from sportsman's that came with its own ignitor, support stand, wind screen and it all folds together nice and small. Boils water in about 45 seconds.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Jetboil is the ideal camp stove for those who leave their camp stove at camp and instead drive their Sportsmobile or JK w/ "expedition trailer" 20 minutes to Starbucks to get a Chai Latte and a ham foldover.

Bought one 10 years ago, it sucked, gave it to my brother, who in turn gave it away. For backpacking, my Primus white-gas stove kicks ass, for anything car/truck based, I have an old school Coleman dual burner stove.

I have a Primus. Leaks like spring thaw.

 

[eric strt6]

Take the pudgie iron and wedge some rocks or logs so that it can hold a pan or pot over the campfire. Works like a champ for cream of wheat also....

that would rule out any sub alpine camping out west. Camp Fires are banned above 9600' even lower in some areas. Some of my favorite back packing spots are above 10,500

 

[HAB]

that would rule out any sub alpine camping out west. Camp Fires are banned above 9600' even lower in some areas. Some of my favorite back packing spots are above 10,500

It's as low as 4000' a lot of places around here.

 

[eric strt6]

It's as low as 4000' a lot of places around here.

Yeah too many people and too much ecological damage to fragile environments. I think that the last time I built a campfire while backpacking would have been around 1977 and the last time in a campground fire pit would have been the mid 90s. I have found that I prefer the dark and the stars or moonlight to a 20 foot dome of fire light.

 

[DirtyMike]

I made a fire last week using a bees wax coated cotton ball and a ferrocium rod

 

[SkaredShtles]

that would rule out any sub alpine camping out west. Camp Fires are banned above 9600' even lower in some areas. Some of my favorite back packing spots are above 10,500

Maybe where YOU'RE from out west. No such rule here.

 

[eric strt6]

Maybe where YOU'RE from out west. No such rule here.

Naw just the Cascades and the Sierras and a few other places on the left coast

 

[syadasti]

Maybe where YOU'RE from out west. No such rule here.

Wood smoke is one of the worst pollutants you can emit according to NASA due to black carbon, especially in the winter time. A campfire or wood fired fireplace/traditional stove is worse than rolling coal at any elevation (and more obnoxious now that we know better) - if people reduce or improve how they burn wood globally millions of deaths could be prevented and crop yield could improve by millions of metric tons:

http://www.invw.org/content/where-theres-smoke-theres-sickness-wood-smoke-now-a-major-northwest-air-polluter

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/cleanair-warming.html

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/interactive-charts.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/16/nation/la-na-fairbanks-air-pollution-20130217

http://sparetheair.org/Stay-Informed/Particulate-Matter/Wood-Smoke.aspx

Responsible wood burning options:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-11-10/woodstoves-regulations-heating-pollution/51160192/1

Responsible wood option for camping:
http://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/biolite-campstove

 

[slyfink]

I was going to write that I don't like making campfires when camping because they gum up my lungs and make me hack all night, but then I'd be agreeing with Syadasti, and well.... fuck it, he's got a point. I'm also too lazy to root around looking for wood, hacking it up, burning it half assed, and then trying to put it out when all I want to do is pass out in my sleeping bag. if I make a fire (say when I'm canoe camping with the kids) I keep it very small.

On another topic, anyone use the aeropress to make coffee? there used to be an espresso machine at work, but my colleague to whom it belonged left yesterday. I have a ceramic brew cone, which is fine I guess, but I'd like something more concentrated that takes less time to brew. does the coffee that comes out of an aeropress taste like a concentrated "regular" brewed coffee, or is it closer to espresso? I have friends who use it for camping because it's compact and doesn't make a mess. Any thoughts on that?

 

[Adventurous]

Now I'm going to find a way to fit a stack to my backpack so I can roll coal at elevation and chastise the campers with their fires for polluting the environment.

 

[syadasti]

Now I'm going to find a way to fit a stack to my backpack so I can roll coal at elevation and chastise the campers with their fires for polluting the environment.

Don't forget to hand out demerit badges to the scouts

Here's a badge for jetboil mastery:

 

[Adventurous]

Wood smoke is one of the worst pollutants you can emit according to NASA due to black carbon, especially in the winter time. A campfire or wood fired fireplace/traditional stove is worse than rolling coal at any elevation (and more obnoxious now that we know better) - if people reduce or improve how they burn wood globally millions of deaths could be prevented and crop yield could improve by millions of metric tons:

http://www.invw.org/content/where-theres-smoke-theres-sickness-wood-smoke-now-a-major-northwest-air-polluter

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/cleanair-warming.html

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/interactive-charts.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/16/nation/la-na-fairbanks-air-pollution-20130217

http://sparetheair.org/Stay-Informed/Particulate-Matter/Wood-Smoke.aspx

Responsible wood burning options:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-11-10/woodstoves-regulations-heating-pollution/51160192/1

Responsible wood option for camping:
http://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/biolite-campstove

Thank you for these links BTW. As I look forward towards perhaps building a house I'm considering alternative options for heating and this will provide food for thought.

 

[jonKranked]

I have a Primus. Leaks like spring thaw.

i wouldn't trust Les Claypool to cook my food.

 

[jonKranked]

On another topic, anyone use the aeropress to make coffee? there used to be an espresso machine at work, but my colleague to whom it belonged left yesterday. I have a ceramic brew cone, which is fine I guess, but I'd like something more concentrated that takes less time to brew. does the coffee that comes out of an aeropress taste like a concentrated "regular" brewed coffee, or is it closer to espresso? I have friends who use it for camping because it's compact and doesn't make a mess. Any thoughts on that?

yes. get one. i replaced my french press with an aeropress, haven't looked back.

 

[jonKranked]

Wood smoke is one of the worst pollutants you can emit according to NASA due to black carbon, especially in the winter time. A campfire or wood fired fireplace/traditional stove is worse than rolling coal at any elevation (and more obnoxious now that we know better) - if people reduce or improve how they burn wood globally millions of deaths could be prevented and crop yield could improve by millions of metric tons:

http://www.invw.org/content/where-theres-smoke-theres-sickness-wood-smoke-now-a-major-northwest-air-polluter

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/cleanair-warming.html

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/interactive-charts.html

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/16/nation/la-na-fairbanks-air-pollution-20130217

http://sparetheair.org/Stay-Informed/Particulate-Matter/Wood-Smoke.aspx

Responsible wood burning options:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-11-10/woodstoves-regulations-heating-pollution/51160192/1

Responsible wood option for camping:
http://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/biolite-campstove

I've got a biolite and i must say it is a nice little stove.

 

[Toshi]

Thank you for these links BTW. As I look forward towards perhaps building a house I'm considering alternative options for heating and this will provide food for thought.

Passive solar gain + shitload of insulation (like my R-38 walls, R-50 roof) + ground source heat pump FTW.

 

[jonKranked]

i also heat my home with wood.

 

[SkaredShtles]

I'm still going to have a nice little campfire (when allowed) when I'm backpacking/camping.

Figure my contribution is probably .0000000000000000000000000000000000001% in the "wood smoke pollution" department when compared to the wildfires that burn in my state every summer.

 

[syadasti]

Figure my contribution is probably .0000000000000000000000000000000000001% in the "wood smoke pollution" department when compared to the wildfires that burn in my state every summer.

But Winter (and colder elevations) is much worse for wood smoke and it's significant which is why there are blanket bans in many areas of the West/PNW.

Under certain meteorological conditions - cold, stagnant winter evenings - surface based radiation inversions form quickly in the Bay Area and PM levels rise rapidly. By the 1980s, wood smoke became the largest area-wide stationary source of PM in the Bay Area. Studies by the Air District indicated that wood smoke was responsible for an average of one-third of the PM in the air basin during the winter months and almost 70 percent of the PM in Santa Rosa. Wood burning also generates carbon monoxide and toxic air pollutants such as benzene and dioxin.

Since the 1980s, many scientific studies have been published that correlate rising PM levels with serious health effects, such as asthma symptoms, decreased lung function, increased hospital admissions, and even premature death.

 

[SkaredShtles]

But Winter (and colder elevations) is much worse for wood smoke and it's significant which is why there are blanket bans in many areas of the West/PNW.

I don't give a fuck.

 

[MikeD]

yes. get one. i replaced my french press with an aeropress, haven't looked back.

Yep. Aeropress rules. $25. Simply incapable of being a bad choice.

 

[jonKranked]

you can get a french press add on for a jet boil

 

[johnbryanpeters]

you can get a french press add on for a jet boil

Which doesn't work worth a damn.