You still like Fox better despite needing to hear any information about this whatsoever? Way to draw a comparison...zmtber said:cool but i still like the fox shox better, i just need a refview from someone that has had ridding time on it to tell me more sory
Yep, that's the intention.toodles said:Interesting that they say that it can be rebuilt without special tools. Designed to be consumer-serviceable maybe? That'd be a first.
nah its not a first is it? theyd still have to deal with the nitro charge no? and statos el jefes are "user servicable"toodles said:Interesting that they say that it can be rebuilt without special tools. Designed to be consumer-serviceable maybe? That'd be a first.
Now, all they need to do is supply a manual with the shock that's worth a crap. Something similar to the waste of paper Marz currently distributes with their forks won't cut it.toodles said:Interesting that they say that it can be rebuilt without special tools. Designed to be consumer-serviceable maybe? That'd be a first.
Well the shock does have an air chamber and since air consists of 78% nitrogen, this may very well nullify the need for a nitrogen charge.MisterMental said:nah its not a first is it? theyd still have to deal with the nitro charge no? and statos el jefes are "user servicable"
Well then speculate. Isn't that what this forum is for anywayBrian Peterson said:I would give more info on the Roco, but I don't have all the techno info yet... Hell, I don't even have a Roco yet....
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:nuts:Brian Peterson said:OK... It will be the bestest rear shock that the internet has ever seen!!!
Does that work for you?
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MisterMental said:yeah but surely air instead of nitro would just feel like crap, a guy i know tunes moto trials shocks and he used air in a float and it felt like a saggy arse and he had to change the charge in it ever 2 or so weeks
So you're a film buff eh!?mandown said:i heard they will be making a 9 inch version called the Siffredi
well thats how it was. simple as. hes pretty nifty with rear shock and so on so i you can call whatever you want, im not out to prove anything. and i dont really give a toss what anyone thinks so if you want to call bull**** then go aheadthaflyinfatman said:Ahh whatever, I call BS on that. Nitrogen diffuses through rubber (and anything else) faster than air because of its smaller molecular size (thank you Toodles). And if you reckon you can "feel" the difference, I call BS again. No, don't bother to respond defending your opinion, I'm just letting you know that I think you're full of it.
You are dead wrong. The N molecule is larger than that of oxygen, and it typically migrates 3-4 times SLOWER through a material such as rubber.thaflyinfatman said:Ahh whatever, I call BS on that. Nitrogen diffuses through rubber (and anything else) faster than air because of its smaller molecular size (thank you Toodles). And if you reckon you can "feel" the difference, I call BS again. No, don't bother to respond defending your opinion, I'm just letting you know that I think you're full of it.
Woops, you are correct. I was thinking of helium, sorry.ragin-sagin said:You are dead wrong. The N molecule is larger than that of oxygen, and it typically migrates 3-4 times SLOWER through a material such as rubber.
Like the fox DHX, 5th element, and Manitou Swinger that all use air and not nitro?zedro said:(so yes mr.speculators, it is meant to take air and not nitro like all the other shocks these days).
probably the only one is the Avy, and old generation shocks that are 'meant' for nitro.Jm_ said:Like the fox DHX, 5th element, and Manitou Swinger that all use air and not nitro?
What about a 8.75x2.75?Brian Peterson said:MSRP, $399... Six sizes will be available, but I don't have them all here at home.. I know there will be a 9.5X3...
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Eh? Nitrogen still has a smaller atomic mass and molecule size than the average of common atmospheric air. Oxygen doesn't make up the rest of the atmosphere... Anyway, the difference in that regard is so small as to not be of major consequence in a bicycle shock. which is why I was wondering how someone would "feel" the difference between a shock pressurized with air vs. one filled with nitrogen.ragin-sagin said:You are dead wrong. The N molecule is larger than that of oxygen, and it typically migrates 3-4 times SLOWER through a material such as rubber.
Sizes will be as follows..Kanter said:What about a 8.75x2.75?
I was told at Whislter by the Zoke guys they will make every size and could even make a 11.25x3 for my Fly. Ill have to see that before I believe it.
why not just get an Avy DHS 3.5? it comes in 11.25 and you can just shim the shaft 0.5" under the bumper.Kanter said:So no to a 11.25x3.0 for my FLY?
The Avy 11.25x3 does fine. No need for a 3.5zedro said:why not just get an Avy DHS 3.5? it comes in 11.25 and you can just shim the shaft 0.5" under the bumper.