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Spoted! NEW 2011 demo 8 in Portugal
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I hope it's the same as the current bike. It has the most perfect sensitive to absolute smasher feel leverage rate of any bike on the market IMO.
The bike looks great but I'm a little concerned when I see stanchions dropped all the way through the crowns. Hopefully it'll be exactly the same geo as the current bike. - about 63 deg actual head angle.
If you look.there is also about a 10mm spacer under the top crown
HOW DARE YOU! (it was the bottom in the parking lot fyi). Besides, it always the marketing department who makes the final desicions in the end. For whatever reason really rampy bikes are the new fad or something.Umm, so sorry. It looks like Sam Hill, Brendan, Curtis Keene, etc had a little more weight w/ their opinion than you bouncing around at the top of Tunnel trail.
Ya I really like the current setup. Let's hope they continue to know what they're doing and not just changing stuff to change stuff like so many others these days.
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ball park price speculation?
I rampantly speculate that the price will increase. I think Specialized is hyping this new frame up and creating some excitement in order to soften people up for the price raise.
Wonder if this bike will be able to stand up to the fabled east coast gnarl.
So I'm surprised that in this entire thread no one spotted the new Spesh rubber that Keene was rocking on his proto rig...
It's a new spike tire called the "Hillbilly" and Sammy was running them on the Giant Slalom at the Open. Transcend had the other new tire the "Butcher" on his 225 proto and I must say - judging by the rubber compound (even if it is not finalized) it seems Spesh might be onto something here... pretty stoked to see how they perform in the hands of the masses. Might be something that gives Maxxis a run for its money. Large volume tires (compared to a Maxxis 2.5") with low RR that hook up like Cameron Diaz after 7 tequila shots sounds rad to me.
It's a new spike tire called the "Hillbilly" and Sammy was running them on the Giant Slalom at the Open. Transcend had the other new tire the "Butcher" on his 225 proto and I must say - judging by the rubber compound (even if it is not finalized) it seems Spesh might be onto something here... pretty stoked to see how they perform in the hands of the masses. Might be something that gives Maxxis a run for its money. Large volume tires (compared to a Maxxis 2.5") with low RR that hook up like Cameron Diaz after 7 tequila shots sounds rad to me.
I agree. The ultralow stand over puts me off as well. I also didn't like the looks of the likely limiting rear shock mount. However, I didn't have the information at the time that there would be other options. I'm still very happy with my 2010 Demo 8 II. I will not be changing it out any time soon.
I believe that many parts of the world are seeing 8-10% price increases on 2011 Specialized bikes. I know we've seen some price changes in the lower range.
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There has also been a price drop on the lower.end bikes. Obviously on this there will be an increase. I remember when the Demo 9 frame came out it was an absurd price at the time.
That's the first Bike of the Big S since quite some time that attracts me.
Hopefully the frame only color will be different than the one shown in this thread. The black grey version of the monster boys looks way better!
Only downside IMO is that the frame will come with the Fox RC4 and a shock change will be costly due to this shock extension thing...
Hopefully the frame only color will be different than the one shown in this thread. The black grey version of the monster boys looks way better!
Only downside IMO is that the frame will come with the Fox RC4 and a shock change will be costly due to this shock extension thing...
I did see that in the Pinkbike pictures. Looks like a slightly wider cut spike, with similar blocks to a Muddy Mary. In other words, close to perfect!So I'm surprised that in this entire thread no one spotted the new Spesh rubber that Keene was rocking on his proto rig...
It's a new spike tire called the "Hillbilly" and Sammy was running them on the Giant Slalom at the Open. Transcend had the other new tire the "Butcher" on his 225 proto and I must say - judging by the rubber compound (even if it is not finalized) it seems Spesh might be onto something here... pretty stoked to see how they perform in the hands of the masses. Might be something that gives Maxxis a run for its money. Large volume tires (compared to a Maxxis 2.5") with low RR that hook up like Cameron Diaz after 7 tequila shots sounds rad to me.
running their current "clutch, chunder, and storm" tires and absolutely loving them. looking forward to the new stuff with great anticipation. also, i know that nobody does, but if you are paying retail, specialized tires are about $10-15 cheaper than maxxisSo I'm surprised that in this entire thread no one spotted the new Spesh rubber that Keene was rocking on his proto rig...
It's a new spike tire called the "Hillbilly" and Sammy was running them on the Giant Slalom at the Open. Transcend had the other new tire the "Butcher" on his 225 proto and I must say - judging by the rubber compound (even if it is not finalized) it seems Spesh might be onto something here... pretty stoked to see how they perform in the hands of the masses. Might be something that gives Maxxis a run for its money. Large volume tires (compared to a Maxxis 2.5") with low RR that hook up like Cameron Diaz after 7 tequila shots sounds rad to me.
You callin' me a liar?FSR works more effectively than a single pivot over a wider range of gears. You won't be able to tell any difference in pedalling or plushness from 34 to 38.
The Monster team never runs bigger than 36. I guess that means you are faster than them ::
Check our website for 2010 geo - pretty much the same.
JC
hah hah. It's all good. I know the team turns a 36 tooth, but just figured the West Coast influence would have you guys putting a 38 on it with the bigger mountains.
I thought it was a legitamite question since the bike lengths are laid out for bigger, faster mountains. The Demo is a really long bike for this area. Come ride some NC gravity and you'll see what I mean. Tight stuff and tons of it.
Feel free to bring a test bike for me to sample.
The hillbilly is a dry spike developed with the race team. It has cut lines to ramp the center spikes, has a different profile and different stiffness in different areas (can't remember exactly what). I was told "we'll be running these pretty much everywhere they don't need the storm."
Good info. "Dry spike" could be the next trend in tires eh? WC pros have been cutting spikes for intermediate conditions for the past few years and it's finally filtered into a production product.
Should be good for everything but hardpack. Not sure about rock? Overall similar to Muddy Mary.
EDIT: Sicklines has pics and specs http://www.sicklines.com/2010/07/01/2011-specialized-hillbilly-tire-and-butcher-tire/#more-9227
They are saying it's good for hardpack and rock, so we'll see...can't wait to try a set.
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Wyatt & profro were riding the Hillbilly at the Dirty Bird but in I think a 2.2 width. I don't see any sizing for it on Sicklines, just for the Butcher (copyright infringement).
So you ride tight stuff and you want a 38TYou callin' me a liar?
hah hah. It's all good. I know the team turns a 36 tooth, but just figured the West Coast influence would have you guys putting a 38 on it with the bigger mountains.
I thought it was a legitamite question since the bike lengths are laid out for bigger, faster mountains. The Demo is a really long bike for this area. Come ride some NC gravity and you'll see what I mean. Tight stuff and tons of it.
Feel free to bring a test bike for me to sample.
Check these vids of Brendan riding one of the steepest race courses in the UK. He seems to get on just fine with the long front centre
http://dirt.mpora.com/news/mtbcut-halo-bds-3-llangollen.htmlIf Brendog likes the long front center everybody should like it - assuming you have his abilitiesSo you ride tight stuff and you want a 38T
Check these vids of Brendan riding one of the steepest race courses in the UK. He seems to get on just fine with the long front centre
The setup of one of the best racers out there is not a benchmark for all us average riders.....
A 36 would be plenty big enough....if you were riding a 9 tooth in the rear. Just sayin...
Just trying to express that where we ride is tight and narrow for the most part and that I have managed to spin out a 36 from time to time. Didn't say I run out of gears all day every day. Jason answered my question perfectly.So you ride tight stuff and you want a 38T
Check these vids of Brendan riding one of the steepest race courses in the UK. He seems to get on just fine with the long front centre
Where do you ride? Because where we ride is practically a jungle.
Initial ride report from NSMB:
http://nsmb.com/3790-2011-demo-8-ridden/
http://nsmb.com/3790-2011-demo-8-ridden/
Sweet commercial.
ya, I agree, that really said nothing.
True true, in fairness, they as much as say that at the beginning of the article. Cool to see some good pictures of the bike, was interested to read that the bike tends to ride more "stuck to the ground." Time and unbiased testers will tell. Either way, it's a pretty bike that has incorporated some much-asked-for features. I'd love to throw a leg over it.
i wouldnt call these "sexy"
alu links w/ magnesium brace.Is that a carbon link or im i wrong?
They're better than the welds on my Enduro, that has some shockers. And my old 88 was even worse.i wouldnt call these "sexy"
Actually I've kept up with Brendan down one of the steepest trials in Whistler. For about 20 metersIf Brendog likes the long front center everybody should like it - assuming you have his abilities
The setup of one of the best racers out there is not a benchmark for all us average riders.....
I personally love the long front centre and the only thing that I think average riders would struggle with is the low BB IMO.
Mainly ride on the Shore and Whistler. Not quite a jungle although I did see a ferret in Whistler village yesterday.Where do you ride? Because where we ride is practically a jungle.
I agree. I think welds have got progressively worse on the mass produced bikes in recent years. I guess cuts have to be made somewhere to recover the costs of all the hydroforming and complex forgings on frames these days.
I was going to spill the deets but i wont.
no carbon sorry
no carbon sorry
really cause i know plenty of mass produced bikes that have cracked