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To reiterate what I wrote in the thread BikeGeek posted: Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1's
I'm not sure of the weight range you're interested in (I'm not familiar with Kinetics), but I've always had great luck with Mutanoraptors.
Do a search n00b... 
I just mounted some Kenda Nevegals:
Front: 2.35 Sticky-E
Rear: 2.1 Sticky-E dual compound
Rode on them yesterday and they hooked up pretty damn good
Before that I had a 2.35 ST Maxxis High Roller on the front with a 2.0 Hutch Python Lite on the back and the rear would always wash on dry surfaces...font did hook up tho!!
I was impressed with my first ride on the Kenda's. They roll a bit slow, but boy to they hook up. Time will tell...the sidewalls on the Kenda's worry me a bit...they are paper thin.
Front: 2.35 Sticky-E
Rear: 2.1 Sticky-E dual compound
Rode on them yesterday and they hooked up pretty damn good
Before that I had a 2.35 ST Maxxis High Roller on the front with a 2.0 Hutch Python Lite on the back and the rear would always wash on dry surfaces...font did hook up tho!!I was impressed with my first ride on the Kenda's. They roll a bit slow, but boy to they hook up. Time will tell...the sidewalls on the Kenda's worry me a bit...they are paper thin.
what type of riding were you doing?Acadian said:I just mounted some Kenda Nevegals:
Front: 2.35 Sticky-E
Rear: 2.1 Sticky-E dual compound
Rode on them yesterday and they hooked up pretty damn good
I was impressed with my first ride on the Kenda's. They roll a bit slow, but boy to they hook up. Time will tell...the sidewalls on the Kenda's worry me a bit...they are paper thin.
Oh my Kenda Kinetics I didn't have any sidewall problems with.
I really liked the MAXXIS HANSVENTURE 2.35 that came on my MKIII however I had all kinds of pinch flat problems with them.
you're typical trail ride....This is on my 5-spot.stosh said:
ok...in all seriousness, I have 2.35 Kenda BG/Nev Stick-E combo on my Kona, and they hook up on everything. I just ordered another set in 2.1 to see if I can get a little less rolling resistance. Other than that, they're awesome!
Just 1.8 and 2.1.stosh said:
Panaracer is now making one called the Cinder that looks similar to the Fire XC, but is made of a different compound and comes in 1.9, 2.1 and 2.25. The 2.25 is almost 200g more than the 2.1 Fire XC.
http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/mtb/xc.html
What is the advantage of the Cinder?pixelninja said:Just 1.8 and 2.1.
Panaracer is now making one called the Cinder that looks similar to the Fire XC, but is made of a different compound and comes in 1.9, 2.1 and 2.25. The 2.25 is almost 200g more than the 2.1 Fire XC.
http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/mtb/xc.html
Yeah, even though it/they are not fr/rr specific tires, most people run them this way. I have run a BG front and rear and it was good in dry conditions, but not as good in the slop. And, on my DH bike I run Nev's front and rear.stosh said:
I just mounted some Kenda Nevegals as well.
Front & Rear: 2.1 Sticky-E dual compound
They do hook up well, the thin side wall worries me as well. I also noticed when I went down a steep loose descent the front tire seemed to move from side to side (maybe from the side wall). I run 38 PSI in them so maybe that is the issue.
Front & Rear: 2.1 Sticky-E dual compound
They do hook up well, the thin side wall worries me as well. I also noticed when I went down a steep loose descent the front tire seemed to move from side to side (maybe from the side wall). I run 38 PSI in them so maybe that is the issue.
Beats me. The Panaracer site basically just says the new compound makes it a better tire than the Fire. If it weighs the same as the Fire, I may try a pair when my Fire's wear out.stosh said:
I agree to an extent. Although, in muddy situations, I can see how having a compound that sheds mud easier would be a good thing. Less mud packing up your tread = more traction.stosh said:
In dry conditions, I would think that the hardness or softness of the rubber would make a bigger difference than the "stickiness" of the compound.
My Kendas hook up to everything, wet or dry. Roots, rocks... I'll never go back.stosh said:
They're really using a "sticky" compound? I always thought "sticky" was just a buzzword used to simplify the hardness/softness characteristics.pixelninja said:
Anyone tried any Geax tires? Some seem to have pretty decent tread patterns, but I never hear anything about them.
BG you're right in a sense...
Slow rebounding rubber compound for the ultimate in traction control. The slow rebound ratio of the rubber, acts as a suspension, allowing the tread to conform to the trail surface rather than bouncing off of it. Stick-E rubber is used in two applications. One is over the entire tread surface (Freeride/Downhill) the other is on the outside knobs used on cross country applications for outstanding traction in the corners.
Slow rebounding rubber compound for the ultimate in traction control. The slow rebound ratio of the rubber, acts as a suspension, allowing the tread to conform to the trail surface rather than bouncing off of it. Stick-E rubber is used in two applications. One is over the entire tread surface (Freeride/Downhill) the other is on the outside knobs used on cross country applications for outstanding traction in the corners.
That's why I thought it was a buzzword. Softer tires tend to grip better, hence, they're "stickier." Maybe I'm the only one that thought that way.stosh said:
My money would go to the company that can combine the stickiness with durability while maintaining low rolling resistance. Usually one happens at the expense of the others.stosh said:
The Panaracer site says nothing about "stickiness". It just talks about some special compound that makes the Cinder a better tire than the Fire XC. Here's what it says, take from it what you will:BikeGeek said:
That said, there are some rubber compounds that are more sticky than others. Take for instance the rubber used in climbing shoes. Definitely more sticky than the rubber used in everyday athletic shoes.
BikeGeek said:
Then your money should go to Michelin. Their new dual compound XCR and AM tires are my favourite tires ever.
Michelin 2.1 Comp S used to be my tire of choice. Then the Comp S dropped to a 1.9 and they introduced the Comp S lite in 2.1. The lite never performed the same as the regular S. I haven't looked at Michelin in a while, maybe I'll check out their lineup again.SuspectDevice said:
I don't think Rip would agree with you about Michelin...SuspectDevice said:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127847
I ran Michelin Wildgrippers for a while and loved the way they hooked up, but they were thin and puncture prone.
Stosh, just go get the damn Fire XC Pros.
some wicked cheap specialized enduro 2.0 tires at www.chucksbikes.com - $4.50 each!
Just for the hell of it I picked up two. Nine bucks for two 2.0 tires from a solid company like the Big S - figured I couldn't lose.
Just for the hell of it I picked up two. Nine bucks for two 2.0 tires from a solid company like the Big S - figured I couldn't lose.
Are they the 60 or 120tpi version? Doesn't really matter, I guess, for that price.MMcG said:
I dunno. I figured at that price they'd get some use somewhere even if it is on the bike I'm building up for my son.
Hey Stosh,stosh said:
I love them Fires in the 2.1 all around. I had the intention to run a Cinder 2.25 up front on my XC rig. Well, turns out I put it on the back and placed a Fire 2.4 FR on front (from my SS). Will ride tonight, and report later. What are you looking for weight wise? I hear good things about the Kenda Tomac stuff. Nevegals, Cortezs, etc. They are generally a little bit lighter than the Panaracer stuff given the same widths. I have read on MTBR that the Cinder is good front and rear too.
Cheers.
Whoops! Check out Performance, I got mine for $20, kevlar bead. Wise buy.stosh said:
Performance is selling another of my favorites tires for a good price: IRC Mythos 2.1 for $12.95 each. I found these tires hook up well in dry rocky conditions. And they're light too, 565g each. Note that these come in front and rear specific versions.Meat Foot said:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=12463#
Killer buy, how do they do in the gravelly, rocky, rooty, hardpack, rollers, you get the idea about all arounder. I have heard good things on the semi-slicks for the dry hardpack. I have never owned a semi slick though. Mixed bag.pixelninja said:
The only condition that I haven't used the Mythos in is mud. Other than that, I found them to be a great all-around tire. They were my last set and I now run the Fire XC Pros. I'd say that both are good all-around tires.Meat Foot said: