Im interested in both i want to ride street park mostly and some dj. i want to know which one people prefer and why.
Aluminum vs Steel. Mountain bike frames/components/etc are expensive as all get out. I miss the affordable prices of BMX bikes.what about the mob makes it 200 more then the riot
couldn't be more wrong.Aluminum vs Steel. Mountain bike frames/components/etc are expensive as all get out. I miss the affordable prices of BMX bikes.
I meant: "Aluminum vs Steel?" not "Aluminum vs Steel."couldn't be more wrong.
riot has a different, less costly, steel tubeset compared to the mob. same geo though
i thought of it the oposit way, coming from the aliminum kona scrap i used to ride the riot feels stiffer and geo suits me better. Eiter way they are all sweet frames hooked up the right way.Aluminum flexes less actually, it is an extremely stiff metal.
Its made in the US by S&Mwhat about the mob makes it 200 more then the riot
How is it stronger? You are talking out of your anus my friend.go with the black market, its lighter, stronger, and in my opinoin rides a lot better.
Sorry - that's incorrect.Aluminum flexes less actually, it is an extremely stiff metal.
why did you bother explaining it?Sorry - that's incorrect.
Steel (1020, 4140, 4340, etc) is exactly 3 times stiffer than 6061 Aluminum. 30MM psi vs. 10MM psi (7075 Al is about 10.3MM psi)
However, steel by volume is about 2.9x as heavy as Al. (~0.283lb/cu.in. vs. 0.098lb/cu.in.)
I think generally Al framesets are stiffer due to the larger diameter tubes and thicker tubing needed to resist the bending.
One thing that Al has going against it in a real bad way is that even under extremely tiny amounts of bending, it will break. Steel doesn't have this property nor does Ti. Look up fatigue life and fatigue limit if you're interested.
I could go on for days...there's giant thick textbooks written on this subject that can probably explain it better than I.
Because statements such as: "Aluminum flexes less actually, it is an extremely stiff metal." are incorrect and can(will) be taken literally? Where's the argument? Was I being an ass?why did you bother explaining it?
Because statements such as: "Aluminum flexes less actually, it is an extremely stiff metal." are incorrect and can(will) be taken literally? Where's the argument? Was I being an ass?
How is what I posted not relevant to the subject? Seems pretty relevant for someone that, for example, wanted to design and build bikes. Just because you don't find it interesting or relevant doesn't mean that others aren't interested in learning why rather than just accepting.
seemed fairly pointless to me. There aren't any aluminum frames being discussed in this thread, not to mention what you just stated goes completely opposite of what I have experienced and heard in the bicycle industry for well over a decade... I'm not here to argue, maybe the numbers prove me wrong...
hey, go ahead and post away, I'm not the police, not gonna stop ya'. Just voicing my opinion that it seemed like the start of a rather invalid discussion here that has gone on for a long time prior (although you didn't begin it, just carried it out). Shall we also tell everyone what we think about SS vs. 9spd too? not trying to rub it it, just showing how I saw that topic being carried out... no worries though, so don't stress it.
sorry - I won't go about cluttering up any more threads with facts or correcting any more misnomers while offering explanations for real world experiences that may indicate the contrary.