[Pesqueeb]

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Facebook Finally Shuts Down Pro-Trump Page Run By Ukrainians

The “I Love America” Facebook page had 1.1 million followers and recycled memes from Russia's notorious Internet Research Agency.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Toshi]

After months of expressing caution on a push for impeachment, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi launched a formal impeachment inquiry into President Trump Tuesday.

"The president must be held accountable," Pelosi said. "No one is above the law."

The landmark move comes after controversy over a phone call Trump had with the newly elected Ukranian leader in July and reporting that the president pressured him to investigate political rival, Joe Biden.

"The actions of the Trump presidency revealed the dishonorable fact of the president's betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the integrity of our elections," Pelosi said. "Therefore, today, I am announcing the House of Representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. I am directing our six committees to proceed with their investigations under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry."

It's happening, finally.

Pelosi Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into President Trump

"The president must be held accountable," the House speaker said Tuesday. "No one is above the law."

www.npr.org

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

It's happening, finally.

Pelosi Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into President Trump

"The president must be held accountable," the House speaker said Tuesday. "No one is above the law."

www.npr.org

I always thought Pelosi was waiting until the snare was fitting just right before yanking the cord. Figured she’d pounce as soon as Trump unquestionably committed an impeachable offense, and here we are.

 

[rideit]

Still won’t matter to the republican controlled senate, alas

 

[4xBoy]

Probably time to bring some freedoms to Iran to turn everyone's attention.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Man. Today was a crazy year.

Still won’t matter to the republican controlled senate, alas

Put them on record. Let the GOP defend him publicly. It is incumbent upon Democrats to set the precedent that this sort of behavior is not okay. What is the point of checks and balances if they are never used? If they aren't used against the most impeachable douche nozzle to ever walk the halls of power, what is the fucking point? It is driving me absolutely batshit that Congress seems to have forgotten not only the Duty to impeach but the even simpler processes like Inherent Contempt. If not now, when?

 

[mandown]

Man. Today was a crazy year.


Put them on record. Let the GOP defend him publicly. It is incumbent upon Democrats to set the precedent that this sort of behavior is not okay. What is the point of checks and balances if they are never used? If they aren't used against the most impeachable douche nozzle to ever walk the halls of power, what is the fucking point? It is driving me absolutely batshit that Congress seems to have forgotten not only the Duty to impeach but the even simpler processes like Inherent Contempt. If not now, when?

Make sure we get him out in time to invade. President P should run that circus.

 

[Westy]

If not now, when?

When a Democrat is in the White House, duh!

 

[Westy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-pursued-shadow-ukraine-agenda-as-key-foreign-policy-officials-were-sidelined/2019/09/24/ee18aaec-deec-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

 

[DaveW]

Ok, ok I think I got this.... Now this is where I do a shocked reaction yes?

 

[Pesqueeb]

LOL. Rudy cracking under the pressure?

 

[jonKranked]

Still won’t matter to the republican controlled senate, alas

 

[Toshi]

Transcript:

https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript

Here’s something that caught my eye immediately…

And again the reports are that the whistleblower complaint was not about one call, but about a series of them.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Transcript:

https://www.scribd.com/document/427409665/Ukraine-Call-Transcript

Here’s something that caught my eye immediately…

And again the reports are that the whistleblower complaint was not about one call, but about a series of them.

TOTALLY CLEARS THE PRESIDENT! THANK YOU!

 

[Pesqueeb]

Holy fuck. Trump's press conference right now is the most unhinged thing I've ever seen.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Holy fuck. Trump's press conference right now is the most unhinged thing I've ever seen.

I was (sorta) listening on NPR... JHFC... "most unhinged" is actually probably a bit mild a description...

 

[Pesqueeb]

I was (sorta) listening on NPR... JHFC... "most unhinged" is actually probably a bit mild a description...

Im gonna need some medical marijuana.

edit:
Actual quote.
"we had tremendous. tremendous. it was terrible"



I can't tell if he had a stroke, or if I did.

I'm also pretty sure he asked the UN to, or tried to fire Nancy Pelosi.

 

[mykel]

I can't tell if he had a stroke, or if I did.

 

[jonKranked]

"we had tremendous. tremendous. it was terrible"

 

[Nick]

"Milk comes from coal. We'll dig it up."

 

[Nick]

Whistle blower report is out.
Sounds bad for a couple of people.

Edit- omg the spin on fox news is staggering.

 

[Adventurous]

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This. I half believe that the Republican Senators will do all that they can to downplay this whole thing for fear of having to go on record either for, or against impeachment.

 

[jonKranked]

This. I half believe that the Republican Senators will do all that they can to downplay this whole thing for fear of having to go on record either for, or against impeachment.

well, the whistleblower complaint was published this morning. i'm not sure they're gonna have that luxury much longer

 

[Pesqueeb]

Edit- omg the spin on fox news is staggering.

This. I half believe that the Republican Senators will do all that they can to downplay this whole thing for fear of having to go on record either for, or against impeachment.

Have you met Devin Nunes?

 

[jonKranked]

This. I half believe that the Republican Senators will do all that they can to downplay this whole thing for fear of having to go on record either for, or against impeachment.

 

[jonKranked]

This. I half believe that the Republican Senators will do all that they can to downplay this whole thing for fear of having to go on record either for, or against impeachment.

this is from yesterday. *before* the whistleblower complaint was released. i'm curious how accurate that number really is.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

well, the whistleblower complaint was published this morning. i'm not sure they're gonna have that luxury much longer

I don't think the Democrats will get enough votes to even move it to the senate. If by chance it makes it that far, it will fall flat in the senate as there needs to be a 2/3's vote that they'll never get, so its kind of a big waste of time.

IMO, the Democrats are going to lengths to get Trump out of the White House (they still haven't recovered from 2016) as they are aware they don't have a lot of strong candidates that are capable of beating Trump in an election. Biden is their best hope as he's a moderate, but the cogs in his head are slipping, has way too many gaffs when speaking and now the issues with his son, Hunter its going to be Warren. Warren is too far left for most moderates Democrats, giving the victory to Trump.

 

[Nick]

Agreed.
Evidence of overt crimes could be presented to the Senate and 2/3 would still not act in the interest of the country.

People are going to lengths to replace Trump because he appears from all angles to be a criminal. I know I believe that to be true.

There is no issue with Biden's son. It's literally a red herring.

 

[Pesqueeb]

this is from yesterday. *before* the whistleblower complaint was released. i'm curious how accurate that number really is.

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I know we had this conversation yesterday, but IMO those "30" are even worse than the Trump loyalists. At least the loyalists believe in something, no matter how fucked up misguided they may be. These 30 senators are waffling, self serving, chickenshits. Party before country, myopic, self-aggrandizing, chickenshits. Fuck them, especially. May they rot in hell.

 

[jonKranked]

I don't think the Democrats will get enough votes to even move it to the senate. If by chance it makes it that far, it will fall flat in the senate as there needs to be a 2/3's vote that they'll never get, so its kind of a big waste of time.

passing articles of impeachment only requires a simple majority. democrats *already* have that. numbers i've seen are 219 or 220 of the 435 reps in the house (meaning 218 are required). that doesn't include the lone independent in the house, who supports it as well.

also, re: the GOP. i will repost:

 

[Sandwich]

There is no issue with Biden's son. It's literally a red herring.

BUT HER EMAILS #2019

 

[Pesqueeb]

Agreed.
Evidence of overt crimes could be presented to the Senate and 2/3 would still not act in the interest of the country.

He could literally shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue, lets say.

 

[Pesqueeb]

BUT HER EMAILS #2019

I think this is correct actually. Biden needs to drop out.

 

[Toshi]

Whistle blower report is out.

the whistleblower complaint was published this morning.

Links:

ICIG letter re complaint:

READ: Inspector General letter on whistleblower complaint

The Inspector General of the intelligence community's letter to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire about a whistleblower complaint about President Donald Trump and Ukraine has been released.

www.cnn.com

Complaint itself:

Read: Whistleblower complaint regarding President Trump and Ukraine | CNN Politics

The declassified whistleblower complaint on President Donald Trump and Ukraine has been released.

www.cnn.com

I shall parse through these in a bit. Got to actually do some work for a few minutes.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Got to actually do some work for a few minutes.

The horror!

 

[jonKranked]

BUT HER EMAILS #2019

they're in the ukraine now

 

[jonKranked]

I shall parse through these in a bit. Got to actually do some work for a few minutes.

most surprising part about this is that the trump admininistration *knew* the call was highly likely to be illegal (or at the very least politically damaging) and deliberately misclassified the transcript....... and this is apparently not the first time they've done so. so now my question is - in the course of the investigation what else will they discover that has been "misclassified"

 

[Toshi]

Complaint itself:

Read: Whistleblower complaint regarding President Trump and Ukraine | CNN Politics

The declassified whistleblower complaint on President Donald Trump and Ukraine has been released.

www.cnn.com

Sweet jeebus. The whole first page and change is just on point and brutal, replete with references to the US Code to justify why he or she is taking their actions.

Page 3 lets drop that the whistleblower is not in the White House. It also details directly a coverup! "White House officials told me that they were 'directed' by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from the computer system [...]".

That is a smoking gun!

Part IV and the footnotes on page 5 provide a clearheaded examination of the (bogus) Trump-side allegations re the corrupt, non-legally-trained Prosecutor General. It also explains why Giuliani has hung himself in public already with his admissions.

Another smoking gun , on page 7:

"In mid-July, I learned of a sudden change of policy with respect to U.S. assistance for Ukraine. See [classified] Enclosure for additional information." This appears to refer to the last part of the appendix, which has not been redacted, regarding suspension of U.S. security assistance to Ukraine on July 18, without explanation other than "OMB officials again stated explicitly that the instruction to suspend this assistance had come directly from the President, but they were still unaware of a policy rationale."

 

[SkaredShtles]

<snip> the cogs in his head are slipping, has way too many gaffs when speaking

I would very much like to get your take on pretty much *anything* Trump says... because if you think *Biden's* cogs are slipping, it would be interesting to me what you think about Trump's cogs.

 

[Toshi]

ICIG letter re complaint:

READ: Inspector General letter on whistleblower complaint

The Inspector General of the intelligence community's letter to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire about a whistleblower complaint about President Donald Trump and Ukraine has been released.

www.cnn.com

This is much drier, but again is very clear in laying out the argument in a legal manner--standing, relevant laws, relevance.

"[...] in the ICIG's judgment, alleged conduct by a senior U.S. public official to seek foreign assistance or to interfere in or influence a Federal election would constitute a 'serious or flagrant problem [or] abuse' under [US Code ref.], which would also potentially expose such a U.S. public official [...] to serious national security and counterintelligence risks with respect to foreign intelligence services aware of such alleged conduct."

A-fucking-men. (Emphasis in quote is mine.)

Page 6 also notes that the ICIG has requested a "document access request and a document hold notice [...] to request access to and the preservation of any and all records related to the President's telephone call with the Ukranian President on July 25, 2019, and alleged related efforts to solicit, obtain, or receive assistance from foreign nationals in Ukraine, directly or indirectly, in connection with a Federal election."

So it's been laid down and documented that this shit is not to disappear...