Trump's Presidency 2017 - 2021
the takeaway is that there's *other probably illegal stuff they had already covered up*
I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
The only issue I have with your statement is that Trump has never been a business man. The correct term is con man.
“All of the words are mispronounced. The crowd cheers. They hate pronunciations. They love milk. They start digging.”"Milk comes from coal. We'll dig it up."
I am actually crying. (as opposed to literally)
I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
Are you forgetting or just ignoring the fact that Russia did indeed tamper with our election ?I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
and he also didn't win the popular vote.
Yes, but that's not the first time a candidate won the popular vote, by a significant margin, only to lose in the electoral college. While "fairness" is questionable, it's still legal in our system.
and interestingly, this only ever seems to happen with one of the two political parties.
edit: maybe it's just my interpretation, but i take "fair and square" to mean winning both the electoral college as well as the popular vote.
"fair and square" is not the same as lawfull.
The electoral college is antiquated and needs overhauling or outright deprecation. It clearly gives more influence to states that have less population density. And that is not fair or balanced. But it is legal.
It is absolutely antiquated. It came about as a compromise to get the Southern states to join the union.
"At the time, a full 40 percent of the South’s population was enslaved, and the compromise famously reached by the founding fathers determined that each slave would be counted as three-fifths of a person when it came to dividing the nation into equal congressional districts. The Electoral College, in turn, provided each state with an allotment of electors equivalent to its Congressional delegation (two senators plus its number of representatives)."
So, basically, humans that COULD NOT VOTE were counted *partially* to boost the Congressional count (and subsequently the Electoral count) in states that may have otherwise refused to go along with the new union.
It needs to be done away with. It's an anachronism that, for the most part, does our country a disservice.
This post is so dense we're all going to get cancer from Hawking Radiation.I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
Biden would win, as would Warren or Bernie.I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
I need to go find it, but I recall reading a poll recently that at least 4 different current democratic candidates were polling ahead of trump. I cannot recall the 4th for sure off the top of my head.
I think more and more people are realizing that he isn't inarticulate, as @Brian HCM#1 still believes, but he actually is a fucking dolt.
Which, given the continual stream of evidence, is frankly surprising that it has taken some folks this long to realize...
A leader leads by example.I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
It goes beyond being able to talk, like not avoiding military service, not paying off hookers to silence them, not having your university sued for fraud, not having a large number of your staff/appointments fired and indicted, not selling out your fellow countrymen to a foreign power, etc.
This is no leader.
I grew up outside of NYC when Trump was faking his way through real estate. He was on the news constantly. His ability to address the public was much better then. I think his current speech patterns are indicative of dementia.I'm 100% aware Trump has to be the worst speaker on the face of the planet. He was that well before being elected president. Biden is the lefts ONLY hope for a chance at the white house in 2020. Keep in mind, Trump is not a politician he's a very blunt, unrefined business man. At the end of the day, he won the election fair & square. The left has another shot in a year. If this whistle blower thing goes south on the democrats like the Russia scandal did, it all but guarantees a Trump win in 2020. Grab the popcorn!
I can't wait until herr twirler puts out an executive order ending the illegal impeachment hearings.
Then again the polls had Hillary winning in a landslide, I don't put too much into that. At the end of the day, if Trump is not elected in 2020, I hope to God it isn't Warren or Sanders! I wish Tolsi Gabbard was stronger on the Democratic side, I really like her.
I kind of hope warren wins just so you people are forced to go back into the holes you crawled out of. Bernie can fuck right off, but I'm so sick of the Trumpers that I wish you would feel the pain that 70% of the country is feeling.
Literally not a single thing in this post is correct, including your spelling of the candidate you claim to like.
@Brian HCM#1 .. Serious question for you, if something happened where Trump was not to the Republican candidate for 2020, who would you like to see run for the Republican party?
Fake news, I'm sure.
www.nytimes.com
In Trump’s Ukraine Phone Call, Alarmed Aides Saw Trouble (Published 2019)
The alarm among officials who heard the exchange between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart led to an extraordinary effort to keep many more people from learning about it.
Polls showed her winning bigly weeks before the election. Then things trended sharply the other way, considering the lag in polls anyone with half brain could tell it was going to be close. Trend direction is just as important as the value at any point in time.
Comey's press conference sure didn't help. After reading his book I do think he had good intentions, but what a boneheaded move to do...
It sure was. I wonder why he felt compelled to do such a thing?
Oh yeah.
That's right.
Nothing to see here.
Slow day thus far so I'm going to take the time to dissect some of the claims/crap my Trumphead friend is making since the transcript/whistleblower complaint/ICIG letter dropped:
1) His link, via the Reddit The Donald cesspool:
www.zerohedge.com
My take: This is straight up wrong re Biden. Here's a nice article debunking those lies, which the Trump crowd is hoping to repeat into truth:
2 and 3)
Repetition. Casting a shadow over Biden, when again there just isn't evidence to back up that. Throw crap and hope it sticks. See fact checking above in point 1.
4)
This references: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy
That piece is an opinion fluff piece by a full-on fluffer. He's spinning what looks for all intents and purposes like Giuliani acting as a mob consigliere as something positive. I'll await the final word, but crap like this quote makes me very dubious indeed:
5)
This references: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/441892-ukrainian-embassy-confirms-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016
Hey, it's that same fluffer dude! What's he selling this time? There are some lies about the origin of the Carter Page investigation (pattern of repeating lies is apparent, no?), and then the main point is that a DNC-connected person asked for information on Manafort. Manafort, as you will recall, turned out to be super dirty. Also note that being a DNC contractor is fundamentally different than being a president ABUSING HIS OFFICE and the resources of the U.S. Opposition research is ok. Abusing one's office isn't? Got that distinction yet?
6) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543?s=19
Some Trump tweet-video for fundraising. Not even going to even watch that shit.
7) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/d84r5q/this_guy_leaked_the_fake_whistleblower_story/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
"This guy leaked the fake whistleblower story because he knew it was the only way the fake media would report on Biden’s corruption."
This guy being Trump with a mustache MS Painted on. Yeah, this post didn't age well what with the transcript, the whistleblower complaint, the ICIG letter saying it's credible, etc. This is just a sad mental circle-jerk by Donal fans.
8) https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
Hey, it's the same crap from point 5 rehashed! Extra points for having the tagline of the U.S. envoy to Ukraine there, the man who has resigned and fled from the investigation that's going to run his ass right over. Again, opposition research is ok. Whining about Manafort being exposed as being corrupt and on the payroll of Russian-linked politicians is fundamentally insane when one steps back and examines the facts.
9) https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/23/like-russian-collusion-ukraine-hysteria-is-pure-projection-by-media-and-democrats/
Same lies as in point 1. Again refer to the fact checking.
10)
As with Donal campaign tweets I'm not going to sit through this crap. I will note that Shep Smith has called out Tucker Carlson for being a shill repeatedly, and I imagine this is probably relevant, but again I'm not polluting my brain with Tucker Carlson saying anything.
11) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/d941jd/thanks_for_playing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
This is a post of Donal giving a thumbs-up with a bright light photoshopped from that tiny digit. Makes my buddy sleep better at night, I guess?
12) A link to this: https://twitter.com/kimstrassel/status/1176865141574340608?s=21
Now deleted or otherwise inaccessible. Who knows why? Hate speech? Drivel? Sense of shame regained? The world shall never know...
13) A link to this: https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1176690265676861441
Similarly not accessible. I might be blocked. Twitter might be broken. But from the reference to it it's probably talking about the letter from D Senators that's covered in the last part of the fact checker link from point 1. More crap being rehashed.
14)
The letter is as in point 13, I'm guessing. Again refer to point 1 fact checking.
Let's check out this op ed, though: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/24/democrats-investigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
Ah, Marc Thiessen, known idiot columnist. He rehashes the letter lie, expected. He rehashes everything from the fact checker article, it seems! Recycle lies, repeat until the base believes them. Got it.
15)
Ok, this one might be true. The sources might have been incorrect regarding Maguire threatening to resign. In no way does this make the rest of this sordid tale untrue.
16) An actual thing that my friend wrote instead of a reddit link:
"Trump had every right as the president" line is showing that he is internalizing the Donal-team's argument that the president can abuse his office to do whatever he wants. Well, we'll see about that--that's the fundamental issue with this impeachment investigation.
"Biden is out." This may well be true. He does have baggage. Whether Warren can beat Trump is an open question, but the polls suggest that she and the others will do just fine.
Re "anti-democratic" whining, election in one year: Save me the crocodile tears after McConnell held a SCOTUS seat hostage.
1) His link, via the Reddit The Donald cesspool:
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
My take: This is straight up wrong re Biden. Here's a nice article debunking those lies, which the Trump crowd is hoping to repeat into truth:
2 and 3)
Repetition. Casting a shadow over Biden, when again there just isn't evidence to back up that. Throw crap and hope it sticks. See fact checking above in point 1.
4)
This references: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/462422-missing-piece-to-the-ukraine-puzzle-state-departments-overture-to-rudy
That piece is an opinion fluff piece by a full-on fluffer. He's spinning what looks for all intents and purposes like Giuliani acting as a mob consigliere as something positive. I'll await the final word, but crap like this quote makes me very dubious indeed:
(The alleged wrongdoing here is again the same rehashed "OMG BIDEN BAD" lies. See point 1 fact checker yet again.)
5)
This references: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/441892-ukrainian-embassy-confirms-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016
Hey, it's that same fluffer dude! What's he selling this time? There are some lies about the origin of the Carter Page investigation (pattern of repeating lies is apparent, no?), and then the main point is that a DNC-connected person asked for information on Manafort. Manafort, as you will recall, turned out to be super dirty. Also note that being a DNC contractor is fundamentally different than being a president ABUSING HIS OFFICE and the resources of the U.S. Opposition research is ok. Abusing one's office isn't? Got that distinction yet?
6) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543?s=19
Some Trump tweet-video for fundraising. Not even going to even watch that shit.
7) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/d84r5q/this_guy_leaked_the_fake_whistleblower_story/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
"This guy leaked the fake whistleblower story because he knew it was the only way the fake media would report on Biden’s corruption."
This guy being Trump with a mustache MS Painted on. Yeah, this post didn't age well what with the transcript, the whistleblower complaint, the ICIG letter saying it's credible, etc. This is just a sad mental circle-jerk by Donal fans.
8) https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
Hey, it's the same crap from point 5 rehashed! Extra points for having the tagline of the U.S. envoy to Ukraine there, the man who has resigned and fled from the investigation that's going to run his ass right over. Again, opposition research is ok. Whining about Manafort being exposed as being corrupt and on the payroll of Russian-linked politicians is fundamentally insane when one steps back and examines the facts.
9) https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/23/like-russian-collusion-ukraine-hysteria-is-pure-projection-by-media-and-democrats/
Same lies as in point 1. Again refer to the fact checking.
10)
As with Donal campaign tweets I'm not going to sit through this crap. I will note that Shep Smith has called out Tucker Carlson for being a shill repeatedly, and I imagine this is probably relevant, but again I'm not polluting my brain with Tucker Carlson saying anything.
11) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/d941jd/thanks_for_playing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
This is a post of Donal giving a thumbs-up with a bright light photoshopped from that tiny digit. Makes my buddy sleep better at night, I guess?
12) A link to this: https://twitter.com/kimstrassel/status/1176865141574340608?s=21
Now deleted or otherwise inaccessible. Who knows why? Hate speech? Drivel? Sense of shame regained? The world shall never know...
13) A link to this: https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1176690265676861441
Similarly not accessible. I might be blocked. Twitter might be broken. But from the reference to it it's probably talking about the letter from D Senators that's covered in the last part of the fact checker link from point 1. More crap being rehashed.
14)
The letter is as in point 13, I'm guessing. Again refer to point 1 fact checking.
Let's check out this op ed, though: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/24/democrats-investigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
Ah, Marc Thiessen, known idiot columnist. He rehashes the letter lie, expected. He rehashes everything from the fact checker article, it seems! Recycle lies, repeat until the base believes them. Got it.
15)
Ok, this one might be true. The sources might have been incorrect regarding Maguire threatening to resign. In no way does this make the rest of this sordid tale untrue.
16) An actual thing that my friend wrote instead of a reddit link:
Clinton paragraph refers to the DNC staffer story, which I've covered. Dem senator is last point in fact check, false. So is the Biden on record bit, also false.
"Trump had every right as the president" line is showing that he is internalizing the Donal-team's argument that the president can abuse his office to do whatever he wants. Well, we'll see about that--that's the fundamental issue with this impeachment investigation.
"Biden is out." This may well be true. He does have baggage. Whether Warren can beat Trump is an open question, but the polls suggest that she and the others will do just fine.
Re "anti-democratic" whining, election in one year: Save me the crocodile tears after McConnell held a SCOTUS seat hostage.
17) Another thing:
18) https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-russia-british-intelligence/index.html
19)
This one appears to be making the argument that no one who is in politics should be able to press for the impeachment of anyone else in politics. Too stupid to address further.
20)
Hey! It's that same old D Senator letter crap. Retweet if you are a Russian bot! See last point in fact checker link from point 1.
21)
Sounds terrible? Except that maybe it isn't:
This isn't evidence of a conspiracy with the whistleblower. This is evidence that Trump/Giuliani have been telegraphing every corrupt move they make since 2018...
23) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/da11xo/burisma_of_hunter_biden_fame_partnered_with_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Uh huh, the whistleblower report's a pure nothingburger like Graham says, right... Same "every right" crap and rehashed Biden falsehoods. And the same DNC staffer bit, yet again! It's the gift that keeps on giving.
18) https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-russia-british-intelligence/index.html
Ok, what this proves is that Trump-Russian connections were rife. Great. Nothing sinister about the surveillance picking this up. Indeed it highlights that the narrative of Trump's team being in bed with the Russians is true. Not sure he even read this one before sending it.
19)
This one appears to be making the argument that no one who is in politics should be able to press for the impeachment of anyone else in politics. Too stupid to address further.
20)
Hey! It's that same old D Senator letter crap. Retweet if you are a Russian bot! See last point in fact checker link from point 1.
21)
Sounds terrible? Except that maybe it isn't:
22) https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1177418326399684608
This isn't evidence of a conspiracy with the whistleblower. This is evidence that Trump/Giuliani have been telegraphing every corrupt move they make since 2018...
23) https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/da11xo/burisma_of_hunter_biden_fame_partnered_with_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Ok. Not sure how this has relevance to anything at all. Good work looking at websites, Donal Redditor-idiots! You've drawn a connection in your own syphilitic minds (oh wait, most of them are incels, strike that) that has no bearing to people with functioning synapses.
Not Pence, I'd probably lean towards Ted Cruz.
Dude, don't legitimize the trump sub Reddit by linking it. It's been shadowbanned for a reason. Mainly, it's a bot infested, bigoted, racially prejudiced, shit show.
Frankly, you have a stronger constitution than me if you can wade through that waist deep filth.
Edit:. Bit /= bot. Thanks autocorrect.
Frankly, you have a stronger constitution than me if you can wade through that waist deep filth.
Edit:. Bit /= bot. Thanks autocorrect.
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I certainly didn't browse through it. Just went through the links my buddy sent me. His latest response:
He is in 100%, sliding right down (up?) the Trump-anus.
You're wasting your time with that one. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place. Perhaps this could help?
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