[canadmos]

Haha. Sorry, holmes, I guess you hit a nerve by defending the corporate stealership…

If I did, then I did not intend to and that is totally my fault. I am in no way on the stealerships side.


Speaking of which, I ordered a part from the local VW dealer and got no confirmation email or anything about it. I call them after two weeks and ask them if its there (what are they, hiring bike shop people?) and the guy couldn't find my order in the system. But the part is sitting there waiting to be picked up.

Then I go to pick it up, walk in just after 5, but didn't realize the parts people leave at 5 promptly. I walk back to the counter, no one stops me to ask whats up - so I'm standing there and this dude comes out of the back and wouldn't even hand me the part, as he was trying to shut his computer off. Come on man.

 

[canadmos]

In the ongoing VAG saga, I got a wiper puller but its been too cold to be dickin' around with that stuff.

I cleaned the very dirty sealing surfaces on the sunroof glass and the roof. It has rained twice since then and no interior leakage.

I even found some water pooling on the glass, so its obviously not getting in very fast now.

I also dumped water down the front drains. The passenger one seems to be flowing freely, but the driver side one drains a little slower. I'll eventually pull the wiper and milk that drain nipple.

Going to grab a multimeter tonight and start testing the wires in the back hatch. It'll be a good learning experience and maybe even help avoid having to find a replacement lever/lock/camera.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Engineer #1: We should cut a really big fuckin' hole in the top of the car and put a sliding window there.
Engineer #2: Why in the FUCK would we do that?
Engineer #1: It'll obviously let lots of sun in, cooking the inside of the car in the summer. And when it rains, the chances of it leaking into the car are quite high. And invariably the mechanism will shit the bed, and it'll happen at the most inopportune time - like during a massive thunderstorm
Engineer #2: I'm sold. Let's do it!!

 

[6thElement]

Engineer #1: We should cut a really big fuckin' hole in the top of the car and put a sliding window there.
Engineer #2: Why in the FUCK would we do that?
Engineer #1: It'll obviously let lots of sun in, cooking the inside of the car in the summer. And when it rains, the chances of it leaking into the car are quite high. And invariably the mechanism will shit the bed, and it'll happen at the most inopportune time - like during a massive thunderstorm
Engineer #2: I'm sold. Let's do it!!

Hate sunroofs, I'd rather have the extra 2" of headroom and not cook my head in the summer if I open the blind.

 

[canadmos]

Engineer #1: We should cut a really big fuckin' hole in the top of the car and put a sliding window there.
Engineer #2: Why in the FUCK would we do that?
Engineer #1: It'll obviously let lots of sun in, cooking the inside of the car in the summer. And when it rains, the chances of it leaking into the car are quite high. And invariably the mechanism will shit the bed, and it'll happen at the most inopportune time - like during a massive thunderstorm
Engineer #2: I'm sold. Let's do it!!

I think you forgot to include some weird and overly complicated German engineering in there.

The sun roofs on my Mazda and Subaru never leaked. Though neither of which had a gutter where all the water can get trapped, the window itself pushed up and sealed on the body of the car.

 

[Toshi]

Hate sunroofs, I'd rather have the extra 2" of headroom and not cook my head in the summer if I open the blind.

if a fixed moonroof it can add headroom

 

[canadmos]

I learned a few things today;

1) I should find a proper set of backprobe connectors, because without them testing anything is a pain. Needle pins only work so good.

2) the car alarm will go off when you plug the liftgate wiring back in, but not when it's unplugged.

3) wiring is complicated.

But alas, I think I somewhat tested that power is going to the handle and motor, as it should. There seems to be continuity from the start of the wiring at the top of the hatch, down to the ends of the connectors.

Testing the wiring that goes from the headliner, through the rubber grommet and into the liftgate will be tougher, because of course there are no connectors in the headliner. How do you test continuity there? The I pulled the wires out of the grommet as much as I could and they all look OK. It doesn't help that all the wires in the head liner are also white...wtf?

BUT

As the sun is now setting, I decided to just hail Mary it, plugged everything in (I've had the motor/handle unplugged since this started) and low and behold......it's all fuckin working. I also left all the interior trim off for like 2 weeks. Maybe it was moisture related from the broken end of the drain tube, that connects to the camera (which I've replace)?





I'll probably leave the trim off for another week. I feel like if I put it all back on tomorrow, it'll stop working the moment I do.

 

[Toshi]

congratulations on the inadvertent exorcism of the electrical gremlin

 

[canadmos]

congratulations on the inadvertent exorcism of the electrical gremlin

I'm okay with this gremlin outcome, if it means I don't need to find a $700 trunk handle.

 

[Westy]

Engineer #1: We should cut a really big fuckin' hole in the top of the car and put a sliding window there.
Engineer #2: Why in the FUCK would we do that?
Engineer #1: It'll obviously let lots of sun in, cooking the inside of the car in the summer. And when it rains, the chances of it leaking into the car are quite high. And invariably the mechanism will shit the bed, and it'll happen at the most inopportune time - like during a massive thunderstorm
Engineer #2: I'm sold. Let's do it!!

Don't blame engineers for stupid features that idiot consumers "need". A lot of people buy cars primarily on having dumb feature like sunroofs, electric windows, motorized doors and 6' beds. Then get mad when their engine needs to get pulled to replace a timing belt. People can't open a fucking door then complain that "cars aren't designed for me to work on anymore".

 

[HardtailHack]

I learned a few things today;

1) I should find a proper set of backprobe connectors, because without them testing anything is a pain. Needle pins only work so good.

2) the car alarm will go off when you plug the liftgate wiring back in, but not when it's unplugged.

3) wiring is complicated.

But alas, I think I somewhat tested that power is going to the handle and motor, as it should. There seems to be continuity from the start of the wiring at the top of the hatch, down to the ends of the connectors.

Testing the wiring that goes from the headliner, through the rubber grommet and into the liftgate will be tougher, because of course there are no connectors in the headliner. How do you test continuity there? The I pulled the wires out of the grommet as much as I could and they all look OK. It doesn't help that all the wires in the head liner are also white...wtf?

BUT

As the sun is now setting, I decided to just hail Mary it, plugged everything in (I've had the motor/handle unplugged since this started) and low and behold......it's all fuckin working. I also left all the interior trim off for like 2 weeks. Maybe it was moisture related from the broken end of the drain tube, that connects to the camera (which I've replace)?





I'll probably leave the trim off for another week. I feel like if I put it all back on tomorrow, it'll stop working the moment I do.

I had cheap back probes, they were no fun, I have Fluke and Silvertronic now, they are both good.

I like having the extra colors with the Silvertronic as my memory sucks, it's easier to remember which one I just tested for the fifth time.

 

[Westy]

I'm okay with this gremlin outcome, if it means I don't need to find a $700 trunk handle.

Being in the Canucklestani Kingdom Of Corrosion it could have just been a oxidated connector (or loose pin). After turning it off and back on again, unplugging and plugging it back in again is the second most successful troubleshooting method.

Older generation Golfs had a known issue with a microswitch in the handle. Either that was resolved or it normally takes a long time for it to appear.

 

[stevew]

The sun roofs on my Mazda and Subaru never leaked.

the lady who i worked for in colorado taking care of her show dogs...the glass sunroof in her subaru outback did not leak...it just exploded on a hot day in the summer...

 

[Westy]

A neighbor has complained that his sunroof drains keep getting clogged. What on earth could be the problem?

 

[canadmos]

A neighbor has complained that his sunroof drains keep getting clogged. What on earth could be the problem?View attachment 210996

But at least his cabin air filter probably smells Bounty Fresh.

 

[Westy]

But at least his cabin air filter probably smells Bounty Fresh.

Briefly, that stuff decomposes quickly.

 

[MikeD]

This is not what I thought this thread would be about at all

Yeah, I only lease.

 

[Pneuma]

Being in the Canucklestani Kingdom Of Corrosion it could have just been a oxidated connector (or loose pin).

This is likely the problem. I would add some dielectric grease to your connectors. If you get a little tub, you can just dip the tip of the whole connector into it.

 

[MikeD]

This is likely the problem. I would add some dielectric grease to your connectors. If you get a little tub, you can just dip the tip of the whole connector into it.

Best I understand that now, dielectric grease isn't conductive and you shouldn't introduce it between the male and female terminals...goes on the exterior of the completed terminal connection.

 

[MikeD]

In the ongoing VAG saga, I got a wiper puller but its been too cold to be dickin' around with that stuff.

Cold can definitely be bad for dicking around with your VAG.

 

[Pneuma]

Best I understand that now, dielectric grease isn't conductive and you shouldn't introduce it between the male and female terminals...goes on the exterior of the completed terminal connection.

That is correct that it isn’t conductive but that isn’t its purpose; it’s there to reduce corrosion. Weatherpak connectors often come preloaded with dielectric grease.

 

[pinkshirtphotos]

depending on how much you care about it, shave some insulation off the wire for tests and cover it with liquid electric tape when done.

 

[canadmos]

depending on how much you care about it, shave some insulation off the wire for tests and cover it with liquid electric tape when done.

It's working now, so my level of caring is at about 1/10.

If it happens again, we'll see.

So glad my VAG is cooperating now. And it's no longer cold out, so dicking around can commence.