wc schladming thread
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I don't deserve to be as good looking as I am or to be hung like two shetland ponies! But I am...some of us play the cards we are dealt better then others. Sam did just that!
the person with the most points deserves the title... pretty simple concept. And qualies are not that big a deal points wise when you consider how much Sam won the series by.
Hill's results:
4th in S. Africa
2nd by a few tenths at La Bresse
2nd again at Ft William
2nd at Maribor
1st at MSA
3rd at Bromont
1st at Schladming.
Had he not crashed out in Andorra for a 35th place (while on a winning run) he would have pretty much run away with the title.
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here's a thought: qualifying runs = consistency. they're part of the race too.
Same goes for Minnaar at MSA, where he stood a good chance of the win, and Peaty at Maribor (though he wasn't particularly likely to win there).
But I'm Australian, so of course Hill deserved the win!
Same goes for Minnaar at MSA, where he stood a good chance of the win, and Peaty at Maribor (though he wasn't particularly likely to win there).
But I'm Australian, so of course Hill deserved the win!
i am impressed that Hill, despite his huge crash in Andorra, managed to still be within 5 seconds of the winner there. But on such a tight course 5 seconds down = 35th
5 seconds off the winning time at Schladming, St Anne, Maribor, and Fort Bill would still get you on the podium.
All the top guys had essentially one "throw away" result this year, however Sam's was the worst and he scored almost no points.
Keep in mind too that Sam lost chains during the qualies at both Andorra and La Bresse... and still managed to salvage those runs with good times.
for sure someone else deserves the title more
1+1=2
'nuff said
'nuff said
I'm glad Hill won and not Minnaar.
Sam Hill is much more entertaining and thrilling to watch than Minnaar who, IMO, is a bit dull.
Dunno why Brendan was cruising in his race run? I reckon he could have done much better, I know he cruises most of the time but he didn't look like he was even trying in his race run...
Sam Hill is much more entertaining and thrilling to watch than Minnaar who, IMO, is a bit dull.
Dunno why Brendan was cruising in his race run? I reckon he could have done much better, I know he cruises most of the time but he didn't look like he was even trying in his race run...
"The end of the season is a time for reflection - what has been, what could have been, what will be in 2010! The pits are awash with rumors about who is going, staying, changing teams and Greg Minnaar features highly on peoples lips. -Gary Perkin" (quoted from: http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Schladming-2009-DH-Finals,224/Slideshow,1887/sspomer,2)
maybe not so much on drugs eh?!
you?! how's the coolaid? I said that for several reasons: he's been conspicuously quiet lately (at least in the media), he's not wearing much Syndicate clothes, Whitely is his manager at 23 Degrees Sports, and doesn't Whitely also own Trek World Racing? Granted Whitely represents many athletes on many different teams, but still...
Wolrld Cup standing in total seconds....
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- HILL 1401.67
- MINNAAR 1408.83
- ATHERTON 1413.34
- PEAT 1413.95
- HANNAH 1414.22
- GWIN 1428.34
- LEOV 1430.19
- BLENKINSOP 1437.33
- FAIRCLOUGH 1438.1
- SMITH_Steve 1443.86
- BRYCELAND 1449.12
- BEER 1449.17
- NEETHLING 1458.21
- GUARDIA 1458.74
- RIFFLE 1461.41
- VAZQUEZ 1471.74
- STROBEL 1472.05
- DELFS 1475.52
- SMITH_Joe 1482.45
- HART 1485.91
- STANBRIDGE 1488.94
- BUTTON 1492.49
- THIRION 1500.63
- PASCAL 1642.42
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Not right now...Can you do one for the qualifying too, and then one for qualifying + finals?
Besides, one of the qualifying sheets was messed up early in the year i think....or it was in a format i couldn't deal with...
I'll check on it later...Well just do it for the other 7, then add the 8th in manually for the top 20 guys
That is why I said "literally". CST makes a lot of folks tires.
Specialized did hire a full time tire designer and he did used to be at Maxxis. I think Frank still does consult for them. But Specialized new tires are much improved and now a US Open title and a WC victory.
Speaking of tires, so did Blenky and Gwin race on Schwalbe tires at finals? And if so, does that now mean they are worth buying?
When I was in whistler, I was doing some runs with a certain top pro, he was riding on schwalbe tires, he was not supposed to be on them, he said they are the best tires he has ever ridden in his career. He has been buying them when in europe.
Hey, it was just a guess!!! Looks like I was spot on!
You mention some names and I will say yes or no...I mean, I don't remember off the top of my head, I just rememeber how f-ing odd the names were.
Wicked Will maybe? That seems to be their Minion equivalent.
muddy mary was one of them...I went to the website and got real confused. I am not into this techy crap as much as you guys, so I didn't pay attention to which model, just remember how stoked he was on them.
Minnaar has said several time that qualifying cost him the title this year, so i checked the math.
minnaar's quali results were: 2,7,4,2,9,x,3,19 for a total of 165 pts
Hill's results were: 8,4,1,6,5,1,2,1 for 274 pts
274-165= a 109 pt advantage for Hill
Hill won the overall by 120 pts with 1469 to Minnaar's 1349.
Throw out all qualifying pts and Hill still wins the overall by a scant 11pts (because he raced better this year)
You've been flamed
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Oh, and one other thing to think about is that Hill made a physical mistake on course to cost him major points. I think he would have an easier time sleeping at night knowing he lost because he was going for it. If I were the Syndicate pair, I think I wouldn't rest as easy knowing that minus a mechanical through no fault of their own, that they would have finished 1/2 on the year. What tires are they on?
Excuse me? How is getting punctures not their own fault?
Huh? since when is flatting not your fault? especially with Maxxis tires.
That said, Minnaar flatted in qualies and as my previous post detail would have lost the overall by 11pts even with all qualifying pts thrown out.
peat's flat in maribor was a non-factor. he lost the overall by 211 pts, so even if he won maribor (200pts) he still loses the overall.
all the what-if's in the world don't mean much as no one had an incident free season (even then they don't mean much), and either way you slice it Hill won with consistency without making an exception for his dismal result in Andorra, a race wich he almost surely would have won (+200).
Now, if Scladming had a 40 second flat to uphill sprint at the end Minnaar might have been able to repeat his luck from '08. but gifts like that only come around so often
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MSA.
Which I think is awesome for worlds, because it gives all the top guys a chance IMO.
If Sam can keep this up and keep riding this hard/good injury free he stands a good chance to break peatys wins in less time than peaty but more than Nico. The only thing that could stop Sam from doing so is Sam.
He broke his elbow and then came right back and won the next race.
He also completely blew his knee up right before the season started in 07', riding a moto...didn't really slow him down.
By about 11 seconds if my memory serves me right. Pila 05 right? Although I don't think he came right back, I'm sure he missed 2 rounds, but still ended up 2nd overall.He broke his elbow and then came right back and won the next race.
it was either 4 or 6 secs.. still a hammering.
Then I stand corrected and props to Hill.Minnaar has said several time that qualifying cost him the title this year, so i checked the math.
minnaar's quali results were: 2,7,4,2,9,x,3,19 for a total of 165 pts
Hill's results were: 8,4,1,6,5,1,2,1 for 274 pts
274-165= a 109 pt advantage for Hill
Hill won the overall by 120 pts with 1469 to Minnaar's 1349.
Throw out all qualifying pts and Hill still wins the overall by a scant 11pts (because he raced better this year)
You've been flamed
although 700 points behind Minnaar, it wasnt a great season for anyone except greg that year.
How many WC wins total for Hill now? Is he already 3rd all-time wc winner?
I'd have to assume so since he was tied with Greg for 3rd before this last race. I think they were tied at 10 if memory serves so Hill would now have 11. I'd have to imagine that either Hill or Minaar have a shot at breaking Peaty's record but then again Peaty ain't done yet and in this sport not many race as long as he has and stay at the top for that long either. Some new hotshot could come up in the next year or two and then all bets are off.