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where to find double butted or tripple butted 24 in spokes?

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  1. dexter

    dexter Turbo Monkey

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    we have searched through all the distro's and websites trying to find some black 232/233/234/235/236 spokes that are double butted, triple butted or bladed and have had no luck. calling wheelsmith tomorrow to see what they can do. and we dont have access to a cutter which blows donkey balls
     
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  2. Stoked

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    i ordered dt double butted spokes through my shop for my new 24 front wheel.
     
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    QBP has spokes in every length and gauge. Go to your LBS and ask them to check their site or the QBP catalog.
     
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    triple butted sounds like some NASA type ish.
     
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    Triple butted sounds like this video I watched once
     
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    weight wise you will save more going radial.
     
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    what about this?


    http://www.bti-usa.com/public/category/SK/SKSK/DT/DT731?page=1#DT731

    DT-Swiss Competition spoke, blk DB14g-box/72 232mm


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    BTI part #: DT-731232
    vendor part #: QCO202320072BK
    size: 232mm


    Double butted 2.0/1.8/2.0mm with cold forging technology
    Chrome nickel stainless steel with rolled threads. Black surface treatment resists scratches
    Includes 12mm 14g silver alloy nipples
    192g @ 32h/265mm
    Box of 72
     
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  8. cmc

    cmc Turbo Monkey

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    Looking at these specs for the hub:
    KHE Geisha Street Rear Hubs

    Geisha Street

    14mm axle and 9-tooth driver.
    Geisha
    Comes with spacer washer pre-installed to limit slack
    Spacer washer can be removed for increased slack
    Hollow aluminum axle with CroMoly stub axles (titanium available separately)
    Item Specifications
    Color Brown
    Rear Wheel Type BMX
    Rear Hub Spacing 110 mm
    Hub Flange Diameter 60 mm
    Hub Center to Flange 30 mm

    Skewer Incuded Bolt-On
    Weight 644 g
    Intended Use BMX
    Hub Drilling 36 spokes
    Rear Axle Type 14mm bolt on
    Cassette Body Type Single Cog Driver
    Hub/Brake Compatibility Rim Brake


    .... and this for the rim:

    24"
    width 32mm
    height 22mm
    36h
    ERD 488mm
    color grey
    weight 680g


    THEN going to online spoke calculator:
    http://www.bikeschool.com/spokes/index.cgi

    The only thing I'm missing is Hub Spoke Hole Diameter. The default is 2.5, and it seems like that's fine.

    so, i enter all the info, and it's 231.2mm for 3-cross lace and 241.2mm for 4-cross. does that sound right ? so for 241.2, would i want 240mm or 242mm ? 241 is not available from what i can tell.
     
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  9. SDG

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    I would go for the 3 cross, cause when you do the 4-cross some of your spokes will run over the other on the outside of your flange.
     
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  10. BikeSATORI

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    Dex, why so short on the spokes? I'm not calculator master at all or anything, but I'm just curious since I just used DT comp 244's to build up my Alienations... got'em through bti.

    I have just cut spokes down by hand and re-threaded them before, but that won't work with butted spokes...
     
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    the 232, 234, 236, enz. mm spokes are normal spokelenghts with 24" wheels (3 cross), not short at all... When you have a rim like the Sun MTX, this is the length you will need. If you could get your hands on Halo spokes, they make every spoke length (230, 231, 232, 233 enz.) and double butted. This is what i have on stock in my shop (Dutch Bike Shop)
     
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    dexter Turbo Monkey

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    got the profile hub in yesterday, spokes hopefully today otherwise monday. should have the wheels built up by 5 monday at the latest!
     
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    I gotcha, yeah, depends on rim erd and flange spacing, etc..
    I think I have like 238's or something on my old bfrs...
    But have you seen how the alienation runaway is laced? (Which I believe is what Dexter is building up...) They have a "center-cross" pattern kind of like the G-sport Ribcage, where the spoke goes from one side flange to the opposite side of the rim... adding in just a hair more length to the spoke, that's why I was wondering how he is getting away with spokes that are apparantly almost a good 10mm shorter than the ones I used (different hub in my case though).
     
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    good point... but seems like 4 cross has been pretty standard for a long time in bmx. what do the rest of yall say ?
     
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    3x fo sho
     
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    would yall recommend these? should i get 14g ?

    DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (black) Spoke
    Double butted 2.0/1.8/2.0mm with cold forging technology
    Chrome nickel stainless steel with rolled threads. Black surface treatment resists scratches
    Includes 12mm 14g silver alloy nipples
    192g @ 32h/265mm
    Box of 72


    i'm going down the catalog list and it's hard to tell what exactly the differences/advantages are.
    DT-Swiss Alpine III 13/15/14g (black) Spoke
    14 items, 12 in stock

    DT-Swiss Champion 14g (black) Spoke
    61 items, 45 in stock

    DT-Swiss Champion 14g (silver) Spoke
    80 items, 52 in stock

    DT-Swiss Champion 14g Bulk (silver) Spoke
    1 item, 0 in stock

    DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (black) Spoke
    54 items, 35 in stock

    DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (silver) Spoke
    45 items, 32 in stock

    DT-Swiss SuperComp 14/16/15g (black) Spoke
    27 items, 16 in stock

    DT-Swiss Revolution 14/17/14g (black) Spoke
    14 items, 10 in stock

    DT-Swiss Revolution 14/17/14g (silver) Spoke
    19 items, 15 in stock

    DT-Swiss Aerolite 14/19/14g (black) Spoke
    21 items, 18 in stock
     
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    hmmm. what do you mean 'run over the other'? here's a pic of a 4x laced front 24" 48h wheel on my DK General Lee. all my other bmx wheels are 4x laced too.


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