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where to find double butted or tripple butted 24 in spokes?

dexter

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2001
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Boise, Idaho
we have searched through all the distro's and websites trying to find some black 232/233/234/235/236 spokes that are double butted, triple butted or bladed and have had no luck. calling wheelsmith tomorrow to see what they can do. and we dont have access to a cutter which blows donkey balls
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
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amarillo
we have searched through all the distro's and websites trying to find some black 232/233/234/235/236 spokes that are double butted, triple butted or bladed and have had no luck. calling wheelsmith tomorrow to see what they can do. and we dont have access to a cutter which blows donkey balls
weight wise you will save more going radial.
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,059
5
austin
we have searched through all the distro's and websites trying to find some black 232/233/234/235/236 spokes that are double butted, triple butted or bladed and have had no luck. calling wheelsmith tomorrow to see what they can do. and we dont have access to a cutter which blows donkey balls
what about this?


http://www.bti-usa.com/public/category/SK/SKSK/DT/DT731?page=1#DT731

DT-Swiss Competition spoke, blk DB14g-box/72 232mm


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BTI part #: DT-731232
vendor part #: QCO202320072BK
size: 232mm


Double butted 2.0/1.8/2.0mm with cold forging technology
Chrome nickel stainless steel with rolled threads. Black surface treatment resists scratches
Includes 12mm 14g silver alloy nipples
192g @ 32h/265mm
Box of 72
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,059
5
austin
new project:



Looking at these specs for the hub:
KHE Geisha Street Rear Hubs

Geisha Street

14mm axle and 9-tooth driver.
Geisha
Comes with spacer washer pre-installed to limit slack
Spacer washer can be removed for increased slack
Hollow aluminum axle with CroMoly stub axles (titanium available separately)
Item Specifications
Color Brown
Rear Wheel Type BMX
Rear Hub Spacing 110 mm
Hub Flange Diameter 60 mm
Hub Center to Flange 30 mm

Skewer Incuded Bolt-On
Weight 644 g
Intended Use BMX
Hub Drilling 36 spokes
Rear Axle Type 14mm bolt on
Cassette Body Type Single Cog Driver
Hub/Brake Compatibility Rim Brake


.... and this for the rim:

24"
width 32mm
height 22mm
36h
ERD 488mm
color grey
weight 680g


THEN going to online spoke calculator:
http://www.bikeschool.com/spokes/index.cgi

The only thing I'm missing is Hub Spoke Hole Diameter. The default is 2.5, and it seems like that's fine.

so, i enter all the info, and it's 231.2mm for 3-cross lace and 241.2mm for 4-cross. does that sound right ? so for 241.2, would i want 240mm or 242mm ? 241 is not available from what i can tell.
 

SDG

Chimp
May 24, 2007
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I would go for the 3 cross, cause when you do the 4-cross some of your spokes will run over the other on the outside of your flange.
 

BikeSATORI

Monkey
Apr 13, 2007
723
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one world...
Dex, why so short on the spokes? I'm not calculator master at all or anything, but I'm just curious since I just used DT comp 244's to build up my Alienations... got'em through bti.

I have just cut spokes down by hand and re-threaded them before, but that won't work with butted spokes...
 

SDG

Chimp
May 24, 2007
76
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the 232, 234, 236, enz. mm spokes are normal spokelenghts with 24" wheels (3 cross), not short at all... When you have a rim like the Sun MTX, this is the length you will need. If you could get your hands on Halo spokes, they make every spoke length (230, 231, 232, 233 enz.) and double butted. This is what i have on stock in my shop (Dutch Bike Shop)
 

dexter

Turbo Monkey
Sep 23, 2001
2,947
31
Boise, Idaho
got the profile hub in yesterday, spokes hopefully today otherwise monday. should have the wheels built up by 5 monday at the latest!
 

BikeSATORI

Monkey
Apr 13, 2007
723
0
one world...
the 232, 234, 236, enz. mm spokes are normal spokelenghts with 24" wheels (3 cross), not short at all... When you have a rim like the Sun MTX, this is the length you will need. If you could get your hands on Halo spokes, they make every spoke length (230, 231, 232, 233 enz.) and double butted. This is what i have on stock in my shop (Dutch Bike Shop)
I gotcha, yeah, depends on rim erd and flange spacing, etc..
I think I have like 238's or something on my old bfrs...
But have you seen how the alienation runaway is laced? (Which I believe is what Dexter is building up...) They have a "center-cross" pattern kind of like the G-sport Ribcage, where the spoke goes from one side flange to the opposite side of the rim... adding in just a hair more length to the spoke, that's why I was wondering how he is getting away with spokes that are apparantly almost a good 10mm shorter than the ones I used (different hub in my case though).
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,059
5
austin
I would go for the 3 cross, cause when you do the 4-cross some of your spokes will run over the other on the outside of your flange.
good point... but seems like 4 cross has been pretty standard for a long time in bmx. what do the rest of yall say ?
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,059
5
austin
would yall recommend these? should i get 14g ?

DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (black) Spoke
Double butted 2.0/1.8/2.0mm with cold forging technology
Chrome nickel stainless steel with rolled threads. Black surface treatment resists scratches
Includes 12mm 14g silver alloy nipples
192g @ 32h/265mm
Box of 72


i'm going down the catalog list and it's hard to tell what exactly the differences/advantages are.
DT-Swiss Alpine III 13/15/14g (black) Spoke
14 items, 12 in stock

DT-Swiss Champion 14g (black) Spoke
61 items, 45 in stock

DT-Swiss Champion 14g (silver) Spoke
80 items, 52 in stock

DT-Swiss Champion 14g Bulk (silver) Spoke
1 item, 0 in stock

DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (black) Spoke
54 items, 35 in stock

DT-Swiss Competition 14/15/14g (silver) Spoke
45 items, 32 in stock

DT-Swiss SuperComp 14/16/15g (black) Spoke
27 items, 16 in stock

DT-Swiss Revolution 14/17/14g (black) Spoke
14 items, 10 in stock

DT-Swiss Revolution 14/17/14g (silver) Spoke
19 items, 15 in stock

DT-Swiss Aerolite 14/19/14g (black) Spoke
21 items, 18 in stock
 

cmc

Turbo Monkey
Nov 17, 2006
2,059
5
austin
I would go for the 3 cross, cause when you do the 4-cross some of your spokes will run over the other on the outside of your flange.
hmmm. what do you mean 'run over the other'? here's a pic of a 4x laced front 24" 48h wheel on my DK General Lee. all my other bmx wheels are 4x laced too.


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