The Stealths run on a 1-way locking needle roller bearing. Something similar to this: http://www.mcmaster.com/#ball-and-roller-bearings/=4qwaj9
That's a pretty cool concept for a rear hub, I come across the same bearings installed in the alternator pulleys of some of the diesel cars I work on. Instant engagement and silent, I'd like to try one for sure! One downer tho, when these bearings fail/run dry they don't half lock up solid!The Stealths run on a 1-way locking needle roller bearing. Something similar to this: http://www.mcmaster.com/#ball-and-roller-bearings/=4qwaj9
I thought it was. Just a shame there are no action pics. Meh, working on that.should be interesting.
Nice write up! Agreed HOPE has the best bang for the buck, Im undecided right now (even before review LOL) on Hadleys, hopes or I9s again. I destroyed 6 rear wheels last year and only replaced a few spokes on my I9s. It was hard rocky landings or a REALLY bad line choice that killed the rims butthe hubs never gave me greif. I ran my original set of bearings for a year and a half and it was time to change em. they werent toast but you could feel there pain hauling my butt around for that long!I thought it was. Just a shame there are no action pics. Meh, working on that.
http://www.dropmachine.com/Reviews/hub-showdown-chris-king-hadley-industry-nine-dt-stealth-and-hope-a581.html
Nice review Jeff!I thought it was. Just a shame there are no action pics. Meh, working on that.
http://www.dropmachine.com/Reviews/hub-showdown-chris-king-hadley-industry-nine-dt-stealth-and-hope-a581.html
Once again, great article.I thought it was. Just a shame there are no action pics. Meh, working on that.
http://www.dropmachine.com/Reviews/hub-showdown-chris-king-hadley-industry-nine-dt-stealth-and-hope-a581.html
yeah i didnt think it would make a huge difference, but since i need new bearings anyway, why not upgrade to ceramics?I didn't think much of it when I saw my hubs had ceramics, but man are they neat. I am sure they help on some minor way on the trail, but I'm not good/ anal/ preceptive enough to actually notice too much. I just know that my wheels spin forever, longer then all the other hubs in that review. Gotta be the ceramics. I am going to upgrade my I9s next, just for fun!
w00dy has over a million billion miles on his, and I don't think he maintains it at all. Seriously, kid is hard on components and doesn't break them down wash and wax after every ride like a lot of folks. Maybe he's more anal than I've seen, but I doubt it. He still seems to love his.My former co-worker didn't have very good luck with his Stealth hub. The instant engagment was great, but after a few weeks of (xc) riding in wet conditions the one-way bearing began sticking every other ride. The hub had to be pulled apart and the needle-bearings needed to be oiled to (temporarily) remedy the problem. The guys at True Percision were super accomidating, and aknowledged that the hub wasn't lacking care, but was likely being exposed to conditions they hadn't experienced or anticipated. Hopefully the one-way bearing design isn't that sensitive by nature, and the problems I saw were due to a sealing problem, because I personally thought it was a really slick hub.
Just announce to the world that you don't know how to wrench on your own bike.My Hadleys have been nothing but trouble. Going back to something more reliable and 1/3rd of the price - Hope Pro 2s.
*cue fanboy bashing*
The hub had to be pulled apart and the needle-bearings needed to be oiled to (temporarily) remedy the problem. The guys at True Percision were super accomidating, and aknowledged that the hub wasn't lacking care, but was likely being exposed to conditions they hadn't experienced or anticipated. /QUOTE]
Ya, last I heard they're not really "designed" for xc. More for sprinting type situations and not extended pedaling.
They don't, at least not that I know of. Ceramic replacement bearings (6804RS if I remember correctly) are easily found on ebay and I believe even Enduro offers them.my couple year old Hadleys also spin forever. 5x as long as my King hub. When did Hadley start supplying ceramics?
Ya, last I heard they're not really "designed" for xc. More for sprinting type situations and not extended pedaling.
I put it in quotes for a reasonSounds like a way to explain a design flaw.
Not a design flaw. Their hubs were originally designed for BMX racing, which is a lot of stop-start pedaling over a short distance, not spinning circles for miles. In BMX racing, the kind of instant engagement offered by these hubs is beneficial. Same with slalom/4x, and to a certain degree DH - which is why I'm guessing they eventually introduced the hubs in MTB frame spacing options.Sounds like a way to explain a design flaw.
Wow, that's a hell of a deal for wheelset. Can you still get that kind of special price over at CRC?I got Hopes for my trail bike last year, mostly because they were cheap at CRC, $320 for Pro IIs, 719 Disc rims, DT Spokes and XT Cassette, shipped.
One issue with the Hopes is bearing drag, it's slightly noticeable compared to hubs with very little friction. Will ceramic bearings solve this problem?
That was when the pound tanked after the financial crisis began. I think the exchange rate is not as favorable right now...Wow, that's a hell of a deal for wheelset. Can you still get that kind of special price over at CRC?
Nope. Everyone I know that rides trials has moved on to single speed FFW. Try-all makes a KILLER one that is 9 pawls, offset for 120 degree engagement of 3 pawls at a timeAnyone using the Hope Trials hub? Thinking the Trials hub with a 6 speed cluster could be a bunch of fun...
they're french.Oooh that sounds neat. Got a link? I can't find them on el goog.
They're alive and kicking. I was just over there the other day chatting with one of the guys.I thought the company dropped off the map, this is the first I've heard mention of them in 5-6 years.
I think that's the Azonic Outlaw hub...I have an outlaw wheelset and I will say they are great hubs. They aren't light, but they engage reasonably fast and are certainly stout. No damage to either rim in a season of riding, so that's cool...but I really like the fact that they engage quick, and were super cheap. not the best hub by a mile, but certainly OK.I've been on this hub
Well put! I've found engagement to matter more on the bmx track than in DH. BTW, I'm reviving this thread because a couple hubs have been mentioned that have now had time to be tested. And things change. So...any revised opinions?I guess some people put more importance on instant or quick engagement while other's (me) care more about minimal drag while coasting and light weight.
That's why there is no perfect hub. The lightest, fastest coasting hub isn't also the quickest engaging.
8) Please avoid riding through dog doo doo while enjoying your new Stealth hub. Although this will not affect our hub, the rider may suffer socially.