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jimmydean

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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So is this even close to legit? I know the source is questionable. :rofl:

offgridsurvival.com

No Lockdowns in Taiwan and only 6 COVID-19 Deaths in over 5 Months

In the 5 months since the outbreak spread throughout China and the Asian region, Taiwan has implemented no lockdowns, no shutdowns of public transportation, no draconian autocratic measures or crackdown on civil liberties, and has seen no uptick in deaths.
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SkaredShtles

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
66,016
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In a van.... down by the river
jimmydean said:
So is this even close to legit? I know the source is questionable. :rofl:

offgridsurvival.com

No Lockdowns in Taiwan and only 6 COVID-19 Deaths in over 5 Months

In the 5 months since the outbreak spread throughout China and the Asian region, Taiwan has implemented no lockdowns, no shutdowns of public transportation, no draconian autocratic measures or crackdown on civil liberties, and has seen no uptick in deaths.
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Given the source, I'd say there is virtually a 0% chance that article has merit. :disgust1:
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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jimmydean said:
So is this even close to legit? I know the source is questionable. :rofl:

offgridsurvival.com

No Lockdowns in Taiwan and only 6 COVID-19 Deaths in over 5 Months

In the 5 months since the outbreak spread throughout China and the Asian region, Taiwan has implemented no lockdowns, no shutdowns of public transportation, no draconian autocratic measures or crackdown on civil liberties, and has seen no uptick in deaths.
offgridsurvival.com
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There is some truth to that in the fact that Taiwan has been successful in handling the pandemic without a shutdown, but it fails to bring up certain facts.

1:Taiwan has functioning leadership
2: Taiwan recognized the problem early and took quick and effective action
3: Taiwanese citizens displayed discipline in following guidelines
4: Taiwan enacted strict rules that would make that guy's head explode such as mandatory quarantine and electronic tracking of people suspected to have been in contact with Covid-19

here are the details: We had time to literally just copy and paste their reaction.


Summary of highlights:

• Government allocates masks to retailers and sets price limit of 50 masks at NT$300 (USD $10)
• Electronic monitoring of quarantined individuals via government-issued cell phones

• Ministry of Economic Affairs lists daily local mask manufacturing capability at 2.44 million units which surpasses the local demand of 1.3 million per day

• Government facilities (dorms or spare military camps) used for quarantine.

• Government announced the spread of fake news on epidemic can be fined up to NT$3 million (USD $100,000)

Ministry of Labor to provide financial assistance to workers furloughed due to COVID-19 and receive up to NT$18,960 a month (USD $630) in subsidies.
 
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jimmydean

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,463
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Portland, OR
Westy said:
There is some truth to that in the fact that Taiwan has been successful in handling the pandemic without a shutdown, but it fails to bring up certain facts.

1:Taiwan has functioning leadership
2: Taiwan recognized the problem early and took quick and effective action
3: Taiwanese citizens displayed discipline in following guidelines
4: Taiwan enacted strict rules that would make that guy's head explode such as mandatory quarantine and electronic tracking of people suspected to have been in contact with Covid-19

here are the details: We had time to literally just copy and paste their reaction.


Summary of highlights:

• Government allocates masks to retailers and sets price limit of 50 masks at NT$300 (USD $10)
• Electronic monitoring of quarantined individuals via government-issued cell phones

• Ministry of Economic Affairs lists daily local mask manufacturing capability at 2.44 million units which surpasses the local demand of 1.3 million per day

• Government facilities (dorms or spare military camps) used for quarantine.

• Government announced the spread of fake news on epidemic can be fined up to NT$3 million (USD $100,000)

Ministry of Labor to provide financial assistance to workers furloughed due to COVID-19 and receive up to NT$18,960 a month (USD $630) in subsidies.
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After some additional research, it became clear, I was really impressed with their response from patient zero on. This was an article posted by one of my more eclectic Facebook "friends" who has been bitching about the unconstitutional lockdowns.
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
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jimmydean said:
After some additional research, it became clear, I was really impressed with their response from patient zero on. This was an article posted by one of my more eclectic Facebook "friends" who has been bitching about the unconstitutional lockdowns.
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I am sure he would have been pleased with the FEMA camps, electronic tracking and the President being fined $100k every time he opened his mouth.

Edit: Actually he would probably also be fined $100k. But remember folks, socialism doesn't work.
 
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Westy

Westy

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kidwoo said:
Sees dumbfuck in video preview.........

Goes back to scratching nuts and watching cartoons.
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I stopped after he referenced study that has already been de-bunked and discredited and even if true would mean the death of an additional 100K.
 
stevew

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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so i am scanning the AM dial....and i hear this voice....quite possibly the worst voice for radio ever....and it is ben shapiro....just listening and thinking....i wonder what sexy time talk with the wife sounds like.....
 
eaterofdog

eaterofdog

ass grabber
Sep 8, 2006
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As much as I hate to defend that moron, vitamin D is considered by many to reduce the incidence and severity or respiratory infections, although that is debated. Injecting disinfectants? I ain't touching that one.
 
mandown

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
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Pretty sneaky, sis.

According to the Times, the stimulus bill doesn’t just pass over immigrants who don’t pay taxes. Any immigrant without a social security number — even if they have a tax ID and pay U.S. taxes — can render their entire family ineligible to receive any money.
U.S. Citizens Married To Immigrants Are Blocked From Getting Stimulus Checks
 
Toshi

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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TIL that Cristina Cuomo (married to the CNN anchor Chris Cuomo) is–how shall I put this?–a little batshit crazy. Don't bathe in dilute Clorox, people.

thepuristonline.com

Cristina Cuomo Corona Protocol, Week 3 - The Purist

Just as my husband, Chris, began to finally kick this, I was stricken with the coronavirus. I spent a week in isolation battling COVID-19. Here’s what I learned—and my road to recovery.
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SkaredShtles

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
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Toshi said:
TIL that Cristina Cuomo (married to the CNN anchor Chris Cuomo) is–how shall I put this?–a little batshit crazy. Don't bathe in dilute Clorox, people.

thepuristonline.com

Cristina Cuomo Corona Protocol, Week 3 - The Purist

Just as my husband, Chris, began to finally kick this, I was stricken with the coronavirus. I spent a week in isolation battling COVID-19. Here’s what I learned—and my road to recovery.
thepuristonline.com thepuristonline.com

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"Clorox is sodium chloride" - dafuq is she on about??
 
Westy

Westy

the teste
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Toshi said:
TIL that Cristina Cuomo (married to the CNN anchor Chris Cuomo) is–how shall I put this?–a little batshit crazy. Don't bathe in dilute Clorox, people.

thepuristonline.com

Cristina Cuomo Corona Protocol, Week 3 - The Purist

Just as my husband, Chris, began to finally kick this, I was stricken with the coronavirus. I spent a week in isolation battling COVID-19. Here’s what I learned—and my road to recovery.
thepuristonline.com thepuristonline.com

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How else am I supposed to bleach my asshole in quarantine?
 
jdcamb

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
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The mailman knocked on my door today and scared the fuck out of me. Nobody has been in my house in 10 days. He asked me to check on my neighbor Linda. She is fine. She has OCD and it is a rather difficult time for her. She was afraid to touch our Garbage cans for some reason. I took like 8 bags of Garbage and recycling out of her vestibule. She insisted I take $10. I tried to keep my distance from her the best I could. She appreciated it I think. Way outside my comfort level.
 
Mo(n)arch

Mo(n)arch

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iRider said:
Yep, but can you imagined the shitstorm if Ischgl had been closed down because "just one barkeeper was sick of the flu"? Businesses and tourist alike would have been mad like hell. I see this as a failure of local authorities and not an EU level thing.

More worrisome is that countries like Italy now trying to use this as an opportunity to sneak in Eurobonds. Guilt tripping other countries with "we want your solidarity because EU" when previously the government was blaming the EU for everything that went wrong and leaving the impression with their voters that the EU is not good for Italy. Asking for solidarity just when you need money is not how this works.
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Totally, the sh!tstorm would have been real.
But it was a fact that letting people go home would do a lot more damage then locking them up. So from a pandemic-management side of view, letting people go home was a fail.

Eurobonds is a financial topic that I know very little about tbh. And what I have read about it, I am not a fan either.
Italy obviously is a sh!tshow when it comes to its economy, which has tons of different layers to it. The north is rich, the south is poor for different reasons and then there's a deep rejection for the state, laws and taxes in peoples heads, but in contrary a lot of patriotism for the country.

But fact is, that Europe has a big problem in that regard that countries have very different GNP, different tax rates and so on. Not to mention the strength of their industries and export capabilities. This leads to pretty big imbalances that poor countries in the EU forces to have strict saving programs to keep in touch with countries like Germany and the like.
 
Sandro

Sandro

Terrified of Cucumbers
Nov 12, 2006
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Mo(n)arch said:
But fact is, that Europe has a big problem in that regard that countries have very different GNP, different tax rates and so on. Not to mention the strength of their industries and export capabilities. This leads to pretty big imbalances that poor countries in the EU forces to have strict saving programs to keep in touch with countries like Germany and the like.
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That's the curse of a common currency and losing the exchange rate as a buffer and the ability to devalue one's currency. But in all honesty, what would the alternative be, even in absence of the Euro? The Maastricht criteria regarding debt look pretty sensible to me and the highly indebted countries would have even larger problems in the capital markets if they didn't try to adhere to them. At least from my perspective, lowering national debts and reforming is inevitable irrespective of any supranational framework.

The narrative over the past decade has been one of the North, and particularly Germany lecturing the South on how to run their countries, but the stability criteria were put in place for very good reasons and every Euro member signed up for them (plus there have been tons of excpetions). Incidentally, Germany was the country least enthusiastic about a common currency in the entire union and let's not forget that not too long ago, it was the sick man of Europe and deemed beyond reform and a lost cause. It was the painful labor market and welfare reforms put in place by the Social Democrats and Greens of all people that got the country back on track and allowed it to solidify its disastrous finances.

The EU is ever evolving and I hope that lessons are learned in regards to coordination in responding to a crisis, but that won't absolve the individual countries of their own responsibilities. The common procurement and sharing of equipment and capacities are a good starting point and this is exactly where I see the role of the EU in these matters - harmonization and coordination while allowing for sovereignity. As was said here previously, this is already hard enough on a national level as the countries with federal structures are experiencing right now.
 
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