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DW Link to Turner for 09
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what happened to cecils post?
That frame looks awesome, but I don't see the wisdom in having it replace the existing DHR. The 07/08 DHR is the gold standard of single pivot DH frames with a huge following of riders who for one reason or another prefer it over VP-style frames. Dumping the existing DHR while hoping you can capture a similar market in with the new frame seems like a bit of a risk (though a calculated one for sure).
Why not keep the DHR and introduce the new frame in addition? Dominate both the single and the VP frame world?
Why not keep the DHR and introduce the new frame in addition? Dominate both the single and the VP frame world?
hahaha, I'm pretty sure what type of linkage and how much the same the bike rides will have nothing to do with why Homers must buy a dw linked turner.
He deleted it himself.
Yah, the pics would not pull up when I posted them for some reason but are on thier site. Sorry, the other bikes looked pimp!!!!
thats good S%$T
What teams currently ride turners in world cups?
Probably a couple next year by the looks of it.
I predict Dave Turner will announce that after tons of research, the axle paths and all that junk are virtually the same as the previous TNT which was virtually the same as the previous Horst-linked bikes and that if you were blind-folded and put on the new bike, you couldn't tell the difference between any of them.
the top tube looks normal to high when it looks to could have had a low standover height.
can someone guess ... the linkage doesnt look like a DW link to me.
can someone guess ... the linkage doesnt look like a DW link to me.
....looks flexy.
But really, I'm not a fan by the C.G. images, maybe in real form they'll be better. But I'd be sceptical of all that fancy webing on the lower end of the DHR, doesn't look beefy enough. Many little stress risers.
I'm sure that the real deal will be different than this formation of graphix from a computer.
But really, I'm not a fan by the C.G. images, maybe in real form they'll be better. But I'd be sceptical of all that fancy webing on the lower end of the DHR, doesn't look beefy enough. Many little stress risers.
I'm sure that the real deal will be different than this formation of graphix from a computer.
pretty tough to justify two dh platforms in the micro dh market. as good as the current frame is, the new version will fly out the door & the old would gather dust. that's the nature of the business.
So sexy. That is one of the very few bikes I would trade my Ventana for.
...cough...cough...Intense...cough....Nicolai....cough
Apparently this is still sensitive information! Just had my thread about it removed from descent-world 
I guess I'll be the first to say I don't like the look of that DHR at all. Looks like the bastard child of a Scott Octane and a Rocky Mountain Flatline. :huh:
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ill be the second....cant wait to see tons of these on the mountains
wild bike, kinda like an older demo a sunday and a dhr, freakin wild
Thats how we do it in murrieta.
the 09 site is live, and from the load time, the server is getting hit hard:
http://www.turnerbikes.com/09home.html
http://www.turnerbikes.com/09home.html
Ya think any celebs are over at Turner right now? Lohan, Spears, Hilton etc? if so I will run over and get some pics.
Sorry, i'm gonns start my first reply with a point in fact, at least as far as i can see....
I dont think i can stand much more of this friggin' Sweet, Stoked, Rad, Sick attitude to what is nothing more than a complete line of new Iron Horses with a different sticker,
Anyone who pays 1 penny more than they would for ANY Iron Horse from the last few years needs thier bumps feelin' i cant belive the crap that Turner is pedaling here, they havent even made an effort to differentiate from Iron Horse.
On the other hand, Its money for old rope, pay a license fee and run with a design that works, charge everyone for your name and a bit of bottom bracket CNC'ing hey presto your brand is re-born on the coat tails and the succes of another one.
I dont think i can stand much more of this friggin' Sweet, Stoked, Rad, Sick attitude to what is nothing more than a complete line of new Iron Horses with a different sticker,
Anyone who pays 1 penny more than they would for ANY Iron Horse from the last few years needs thier bumps feelin' i cant belive the crap that Turner is pedaling here, they havent even made an effort to differentiate from Iron Horse.
On the other hand, Its money for old rope, pay a license fee and run with a design that works, charge everyone for your name and a bit of bottom bracket CNC'ing hey presto your brand is re-born on the coat tails and the succes of another one.
totally different scenarios. we're talking about a company having two full-on dh frames in it's lineup; ie, similar geometries, different suspension platforms (would make for interesting a-b comparisons though). intense has a full on dh frame (m6) & a shorter travel all-rounder (socom) - fairly significant spread between the two. nicolai has deraileur & gearbox dh variations - again, significant differentiation.
you obviously can't see that far then. You really have no idea on the backstory of this whole scenario do you?
My bad, i feel so small......
Interesting, a mind reader, why dont you enlighten the few that dare to express an adverse opinion to the norm, i'd be stoked to here it.
its okay, i understand. colors make a difference
Who originally posted this, and where was this picture taken?
well where did you get the picture from? maybe start thereWho originally posted this, and where was this picture taken?
There's plenty of backstory about this if you use the search function. It was a patent licensing issue, not a case of company A copying the suspension of company B.
Long and short, Ironhorse's licensing of the DW-link (patented by Dave Weagle) is up this year, and they chose not to renew as they are more or less getting out of high end bike market. Ironhorse was the only company legally allowed to produce a DW-link DH bike, so when they chose not to make it anymore, that license was up for grabs (this is my understanding of the situation). Turner, who has been making high end bikes for quite some time, apparently was the company who got it.
IMO Turner's are of much better quality that Ironhorse in the first place, and there are plenty of people out there who would agree.
to the highest bidder...
TE is that you?
Mtbr. 
Not necessarily, there are other companies out there that may have been able to throw more money at Dave. But Turner has an excellent reputation for being high quality, and a pretty big history in the sport.