hahaha, I'm pretty sure what type of linkage and how much the same the bike rides will have nothing to do with why Homers must buy a dw linked turner.I don't think the old Turner guys will scramble for the new DW link bikes.
They're sure to ride completely differently, as their linkages are NOTHING alike.
thats good S%$Taaaaaaaaaaaaaand here comes a 15 page thread...
Probably a couple next year by the looks of it.What teams currently ride turners in world cups?
pretty tough to justify two dh platforms in the micro dh market. as good as the current frame is, the new version will fly out the door & the old would gather dust. that's the nature of the business.That frame looks awesome, but I don't see the wisdom in having it replace the existing DHR. The 07/08 DHR is the gold standard of single pivot DH frames with a huge following of riders who for one reason or another prefer it over VP-style frames. Dumping the existing DHR while hoping you can capture a similar market in with the new frame seems like a bit of a risk (though a calculated one for sure).
Why not keep the DHR and introduce the new frame in addition? Dominate both the single and the VP frame world?
Of course you couldn't tell a difference! You'd crash from the blindfold!I predict Dave Turner will announce that after tons of research, the axle paths and all that junk are virtually the same as the previous TNT which was virtually the same as the previous Horst-linked bikes and that if you were blind-folded and put on the new bike, you couldn't tell the difference between any of them.
...cough...cough...Intense...cough....Nicolai....coughpretty tough to justify two dh platforms in the micro dh market.
I guess I'll be the first to say I don't like the look of that DHR at all. Looks like the bastard child of a Scott Octane and a Rocky Mountain Flatline. :huh:I can't imagine how long you will have to wait to get this frame...everybody will want it...i want it!
ill be the second....cant wait to see tons of these on the mountainsI guess I'll be the first to say I don't like the look of the DHR at all. Looks like the bastard child of a Scott Octane and a Rocky Mountain Flatline. :huh:
youre wrong.attitude to what is nothing more than a complete line of new Iron Horses with a different sticker,
totally different scenarios. we're talking about a company having two full-on dh frames in it's lineup; ie, similar geometries, different suspension platforms (would make for interesting a-b comparisons though). intense has a full on dh frame (m6) & a shorter travel all-rounder (socom) - fairly significant spread between the two. nicolai has deraileur & gearbox dh variations - again, significant differentiation....cough...cough...Intense...cough....Nicolai....cough
you obviously can't see that far then. You really have no idea on the backstory of this whole scenario do you?Sorry, i'm gonns start my first reply with a point in fact, at least as far as i can see....
I dont think i can stand much more of this friggin' Sweet, Stoked, Rad, Sick attitude to what is nothing more than a complete line of new Iron Horses with a different sticker,
Anyone who pays 1 penny more than they would for ANY Iron Horse from the last few years needs thier bumps feelin' i cant belive the crap that Turner is pedaling here, they havent even made an effort to differentiate from Iron Horse.
On the other hand, Its money for old rope, pay a license fee and run with a design that works, charge everyone for your name and a bit of bottom bracket CNC'ing hey presto your brand is re-born on the coat tails and the succes of another one.
My bad, i feel so small......youre wrong.
they are completely different colors than Iron Horse
Interesting, a mind reader, why dont you enlighten the few that dare to express an adverse opinion to the norm, i'd be stoked to here it.you obviously can't see that far then. You really have no idea on the backstory of this whole scenario do you?
its okay, i understand. colors make a differenceMy bad, i feel so small......
Morewood izimu - makulusimilar geometries, different suspension platforms (would make for interesting a-b comparisons though)
well where did you get the picture from? maybe start thereWho originally posted this, and where was this picture taken?
There's plenty of backstory about this if you use the search function. It was a patent licensing issue, not a case of company A copying the suspension of company B.Interesting, a mind reader, why dont you enlighten the few that dare to express an adverse opinion to the norm, i'd be stoked to here it.
to the highest bidder...that license was up for grabs (this is my understanding of the situation)
TE is that you?Sorry, i'm gonns start my first reply with a point in fact, at least as far as i can see....
I dont think i can stand much more of this friggin' Sweet, Stoked, Rad, Sick attitude to what is nothing more than a complete line of new Iron Horses with a different sticker,
Anyone who pays 1 penny more than they would for ANY Iron Horse from the last few years needs thier bumps feelin' i cant belive the crap that Turner is pedaling here, they havent even made an effort to differentiate from Iron Horse.
On the other hand, Its money for old rope, pay a license fee and run with a design that works, charge everyone for your name and a bit of bottom bracket CNC'ing hey presto your brand is re-born on the coat tails and the succes of another one.
Not necessarily, there are other companies out there that may have been able to throw more money at Dave. But Turner has an excellent reputation for being high quality, and a pretty big history in the sport.to the highest bidder...