[HAB]

I'm thinking it's about time to part ways with my S4 for something that is less of a pain in the ass. I want a car to haul bikes and skis and people and gear. Criteria are:

-Wagon. I could maybe be talked into an SUV if someone has a really compelling idea, but really I want a wagon.
-AWD would be sorta cool but isn't strictly required.
-Passably interesting to drive. I don't need another 350+hp rocketship, but I haven't lost the will to live yet either. I will be keeping my M3 so I'll have a proper fun car.
-Manual transmission would be nice, but that limits options badly so I'm not going to insist on it.
-Budget, $20k or so tops. Less is cool, I could maybe be tempted up a little for a great idea.

Go.

 

[blackohio]

C6 S6 w/ LAmbo V10. Theyre probalby around 20K now. When it does run you'll be all smiles. When it doesnt you'll just make another thread.

what about Gen2 Tacoma. Good deals can be had and they're solid trucks and available with manual and fun to drive in the dirt.

I just went apeshit and got a gen3. So far I love it.

 

[jonKranked]

FJ? Land Cruiser?

 

[jstuhlman]

taco seems a legit suggestion. or a 3-series wagon to match the ///m

 

[jonKranked]

Unimog?

 

[Westy]

Do bikes and skis have to go inside the car? If not anything you can fit the desired number of people should work. Used 5 door WRX?

Caddy CTS wagoon? There was an AWD version, manual version, not sure if all in the same car.

 

[Sandwich]

Forrester XT? some of the old ones even looked cool.

 

[eric strt6]

Volvo XC 70, Runs forever, reasonably powered AWD can carry a ton of toys

 

[Adventurous]

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[jonKranked]

 

[SkaredShtles]

$20K will get you a LOT of traveling...

 

[Da Peach]

 

[kazlx]

 

[SkaredShtles]

Some of you people need to read this requirement: "something that is less of a pain in the ass"

 

[jonKranked]

for someone that's single and barely 30, and trying to figure out what second car to buy... we need stoney and toshi to evaluate these kind of rich white people problems. top hats and mandatory for your discussion.

 

[jonKranked]

Some of you people need to read this requirement: "something that is less of a pain in the ass"

like "owning 1 car"

 

[kazlx]

Taco with a small lift kit.

 

[kazlx]

Slightly out of the budget, but ticks the rest of the boxes.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5546326799.html

 

[Westy]

$20K will get you a LOT of traveling...

I think HAB gets more than enough employer funded miles.

 

[kazlx]

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5555356023.html

 

[JohnE]

Cut the bullshit and just get a Subaru wagon. Side benefit is that people constantly mistake you for a lesbian...

 

[jonKranked]

econoline / sprinter 4x4?

 

[SkaredShtles]

I think HAB gets more than enough employer funded miles.

I believe that when the employer funds the travel that you have to go where the *employer* wants you to go. Which is OK, I guess, if you're OK with that.

 

[jstuhlman]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/664462213/overview/

 

[blackohio]

taco/4runner/xtrerra bullet proof, strong, go anywhere. Just not thrilling to drive.

 

[Toshi]

econoline / sprinter 4x4?

I second this. Single, like to bike and ski? Something along the lines of a Sportswagon would be a great complement to the ///M.

One of my Microsoft buddies did it right and picked up a Fiat Ducato/Ram Promaster-based small RV conversion, with extra insulation in the walls so that camping in ski resort parking lots would require less heater use. Decidedly not $20k, though.

 

[jonKranked]

I second this. Single, like to bike and ski? Something along the lines of a Sportswagon would be a great complement to the ///M.

One of my Microsoft buddies did it right and picked up a Fiat Ducato/Ram Promaster-based small RV conversion, with extra insulation in the walls so that camping in ski resort parking lots would require less heater use. Decidedly not $20k, though.

HAB is competent enough that he could get a van with a stripped out interior and rig something up himself.

 

[jonKranked]

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-insulate-a-camper-van/

 

[SkaredShtles]

HAB is competent enough that he could get a van with a stripped out interior and rig something up himself.

 

[HAB]

Do bikes and skis have to go inside the car? If not anything you can fit the desired number of people should work.

The bikes and skis can be outside, but I'd like to have room for gear for 4 people and be able to keep it dry. A wagon or an SUV or a truck with a cap would all work, but I figure I'd like driving a wagon best out of those.

Forrester XT? some of the old ones even looked cool.

Volvo XC 70, Runs forever, reasonably powered AWD can carry a ton of toys

Couple decent ideas there.

$20K will get you a LOT of traveling...

Sure. But having a good, solid, comfortable road trip vehicle is a great avenue to a lot of travelling. I can do both.

for someone that's single and barely 30, and trying to figure out what second car to buy... we need stoney and toshi to evaluate these kind of rich white people problems. top hats and mandatory for your discussion.

I'll get my monocle and cane too.

taco/4runner/xtrerra bullet proof, strong, go anywhere. Just not thrilling to drive.

Yeah, those are valid ideas. I'll go drive some shit.

I second this. Single, like to bike and ski? Something along the lines of a Sportswagon would be a great complement to the ///M.

One of my Microsoft buddies did it right and picked up a Fiat Ducato/Ram Promaster-based small RV conversion, with extra insulation in the walls so that camping in ski resort parking lots would require less heater use. Decidedly not $20k, though.

Sounds awesome, but I don't want to spend THAT much money.

HAB is competent enough that he could get a van with a stripped out interior and rig something up himself.

 

[HAB]

Anybody have experience with the e60 530/535xi? Auto only, but there are plenty out there with reasonable miles well under $20k.

 

[rockofullr]

taco/4runner/xtrerra bullet proof, strong, go anywhere. Just not thrilling to drive.

But you can take trucks off road which is AWEWSOME!! And super useful.

Plus chicks dig trucks, get a taco (X-terras look stupid no matter how X-treme it may sound).

 

[OGRipper]

Buying a Euro wagon when you already own an M3 as your other vehicle would be like buying a 150 mm bike when you already have a 130mm rig as your only bike. They're too close, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Plus, trying to get a really sweet wagon for less than $20K will almost certainly result in a project car and it sounds like you want to avoid that.

I suggest you listen to other people and get something bigger, more useful, and more reliable even if it's less fun to drive. That or ditch the M3 and spend more than $20K to get a nicer wagon to do it all. (Love my Audi Allroad, but I've also got a sprinter camper van.)

 

[johnbryanpeters]

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-insulate-a-camper-van/

The vapor barrier is going to get them in trouble.

I'll speak up for a Chevy AWD Express van.

 

[stevew]

seven grand....13 grand left over.....go through the mechanicals.....cut a hole in the dividing wall and put a bench seat/2 captains chairs in the back....still room for shit in the back.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

seven grand....13 grand left over.....go through the mechanicals.....cut a hole in the dividing wall and put a bench seat/2 captains chairs in the back....still room for shit in the back.

245,000 miles? No.

 

[HAB]

Buying a Euro wagon when you already own an M3 as your other vehicle would be like buying a 150 mm bike when you already have a 130mm rig as your only bike. They're too close, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Plus, trying to get a really sweet wagon for less than $20K will almost certainly result in a project car and it sounds like you want to avoid that.

I suggest you listen to other people and get something bigger, more useful, and more reliable even if it's less fun to drive. That or ditch the M3 and spend more than $20K to get a nicer wagon to do it all. (Love my Audi Allroad, but I've also got a sprinter camper van.)

I'm of two minds about that. On one hand, I kind of agree. On the other hand, I kind of feel like that sort of thing is pretty well in my sweet spot for my usage, and buying something different for the other 2% of the time, even if it is more capable in some abstract sense maybe doesn't make a ton of sense.

I don't need a truck, the worst conditions I'll drive with any regularity would be some kinda bumpy dirt roads to go hike. A van would be cool for ski trips maybe, but it's a lot more than I want to be driving most of the time. My M3 is in awesome shape and low mileage and a great toy fun car. I'd like to keep it that way and have something else to daily drive that's got more space and is more comfortable and maybe a couple extra driven wheels for heading up into the mountains. A good wagon sounds awesome at that.

I haven't driven newer mid size trucks much, but something like a Tacoma might be pretty solid if I don't mind daily driving it I guess. It's overkill, but if the tradeoffs aren't too severe then fine.

 

[Da Peach]

 

[stevew]

245,000 miles? No.

that is why i said 13 grand left over...go through mechanicals...

 

[stevew]

scary thought....my brother was passed by a syncro vanagon yesterday going about 80-85 in the area charlotte yesterday....wonder what was swapped in it....