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N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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I had to build up the suspense. ;)

I really enjoyed it, and as someone said earlier it has a lot of similar characteristics to Sin City. There were a few slow parts but as a whole I was kept on the edge of my seat. The battle scenes were nothing less than epic, and left me with some sort of sadistic grin every time somebody violently died. I found the surreal/fantastical filming style to be incredible and despite all the CGI it was very well done. It wasn't the type of CGI that tries to mimic reality but always had something distorted to it (primarily lighting and shades, REALLY cool) so it was amazing. Maybe it's the fact that I'm still in high school and have to analyze literature so much but I found myself analyzing the movie and found it to be quite allegorical of morality and things like that.

I like movies like this. If you're looking for a historical documentary that mystically portrays what happened to an acute accuracy, then don't see it. It captivated me for the length of its duration and I might end up going back to see it again.


Satisfied? :)


you lost me...

Cliff's Notes?
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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you lost me...

Cliff's Notes?
he sez it was "allegorical of morality and things like that" and did not "mystically" depict "an acute accuracy". basically, i'm not sure what he was sayin'

:D
 

I Are Baboon

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Aug 6, 2001
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I had to build up the suspense. ;)

I really enjoyed it, and as someone said earlier it has a lot of similar characteristics to Sin City. There were a few slow parts but as a whole I was kept on the edge of my seat. The battle scenes were nothing less than epic, and left me with some sort of sadistic grin every time somebody violently died. I found the surreal/fantastical filming style to be incredible and despite all the CGI it was very well done. It wasn't the type of CGI that tries to mimic reality but always had something distorted to it (primarily lighting and shades, REALLY cool) so it was amazing. Maybe it's the fact that I'm still in high school and have to analyze literature so much but I found myself analyzing the movie and found it to be quite allegorical of morality and things like that.

I like movies like this. If you're looking for a historical documentary that mystically portrays what happened to an acute accuracy, then don't see it. It captivated me for the length of its duration and I might end up going back to see it again.


Satisfied? :)

Much better. :)

BTW, how come all high school students on the monkey can't type with your coherency? :disgust1:
 

ffonsok

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Hey guys... I forgot where we are dining tonight.

edit- oh yeah i remember.... IN HELL
 

stevew

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It was a beautiful movie.

It kicked the sh!t out of LOTR.
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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...just saw it.

That movie fu@king ruled.

On his way to meet the Persians, King Leonidas runs into another greek general and his troops who have come to help:

Greek General to King Leonidas: "...you only have 300 soldiers with you?! This is madness! But I have 1,000..."

King Leonidas to Soldier #1: "You... what is your profession?"

Soldier #1: "I am a pottery maker"

King Leonidas to Soldier #2: "You... what is your profession?"

Soldier #2: "I am a blacksmith"

King Leonidas to Soldier #3: "And you... what is your profession?"

Soldier #3: "I am a carpenter"

King Leonidas to his Spartan troops: "SPARTANS, what is YOUR profession?!"

Spartans: "WAR, WAR, WAR!!!!"

King Leonidas to the Greek general: ".... you see - I HAVE brought more soldiers than you."
 
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luelling

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...just saw it.

That movie fu@king ruled.

On his way to meet the Persians, King Leonidas runs into another greek general and his troops who have come to help:

Greek General to King Leonidas: "...you only have 300 soldiers with you?! This is madness! But I have 1,000..."

King Leonidas to Soldier #1: "You... what is your profession?"

Soldier #1: "I am a pottery maker"

King Leonidas to Soldier #2: "You... what is your profession?"

Soldier #2: "I am a blacksmith"

King Leonidas to Soldier #3: "And you... what is your profession?"

Soldier #3: "I am a carpenter"

King Leonidas to his Spartan troops: "SPARTANS, what is YOUR profession?!"

Spartans: "WAR, WAR, WAR!!!!"

King Leonidas to the Greek general: ".... you see - I HAVE brought more soldiers than you."

Thats awsome!! My wife really wants to see it as well, maybe we'll go tommorrow afternoon
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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uh, i'm glad you all are liking it (and i'll probably see it later on tonight), but everyone please step back and see if you, too have a streak of military worshipping fascism within you before you beat your chests too much.

don't be like gwb. :(

update: apparently i won't be seeing it, since everyone in boise is apparently out seeing it, filling up parking lots and theater seats. ugh.
 

sanjuro

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uh, i'm glad you all are liking it (and i'll probably see it later on tonight), but everyone please step back and see if you, too have a streak of military worshipping fascism within you before you beat your chests too much.

don't be like gwb. :(
Give me a break. It is a mucking movie. I'm going to see it in the capitol of war protestors with a bunch of peaceniks who happen to like comic books.
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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uh, i'm glad you all are liking it (and i'll probably see it later on tonight), but everyone please step back and see if you, too have a streak of military worshipping fascism within you before you beat your chests too much.

don't be like gwb. :(
...you're kidding right?

Maybe some people like to get in touch with their inner caveman through some really good entertainment from time to time.

It's that simple.

I think you're reading into or superimposing your own beliefs/views into other peoples reactions to this film.

...but no, you're totally right though - I've got the biggest hard-on for military fascism and brutality based on the fact that I like 300.

I now have a poster of Stalin in my bedroom.

Damn that 300 revealing my true inner self!
 
Just got back . . . I think the movie would have fared a bit better in my eyes if it had been a bit more subtle at times. I would have enjoyed less narration as well . . . and perhaps the plot had too much going on (thought the element with the queen and the politicians seemed unnecessary, would have liked to have seen more of the surreal: the oracle, the wolf, the storm, Xerxes' entourage)
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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no, people, i am not kidding. from what i've read in the reviews the movie lays it on pretty thick, and the studio and director are just sitting back smug over the hoopla.
 

sanjuro

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no, people, i am not kidding. from what i've read in the reviews the movie lays it on pretty thick, and the studio and director are just sitting back smug over the hoopla.
There was a NY Times article, which was posted on this thread, talking about the political ramifications; whether Leonidas or Xerxes represented Bush.

The title of the article: That Film’s Real Message? It Could Be: ‘Buy a Ticket’

People coming out to see it? Sounds like job well done.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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...thus perpetuating the fascist conspiracy to turn us all into mindless chest-beating troglodytes!

You've found them out my friend.

Kudos.
answer this: do you or do you not think this movie glorifies war?

/me has spent the last 4 weeks of his life dealing with burnt out, alcoholic, PTSDed relics at a VA hospital
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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answer this: do you or do you not think this movie glorifies war?

/me has spent the last 4 weeks of his life dealing with burnt out, alcoholic, PTSDed relics at a VA hospital
O.K. - one at a time here:

Mr. Snyder, who said he intended neither analogy when he set out to adapt the graphic novel created by Frank Miller with Lynn Varley in 1998, suddenly knew he had the contemporary version of a water-cooler movie on his hands. And it has turned out to be one that could be construed as a thinly veiled polemic against the Bush administration, or be seen by others as slyly supporting it.
So, this movie is based on a novel that was based on some acutal historical events and written by Frank Miller of Batman fame back in 98'... so I guess that means that Clinton getting BJ's under his desk inspired this movie?

Movies are art, and the cool thing about art is that it is interpretive - current contextual events can be read into it or anything else for that matter - in this case it's the war in Iraq and the current U.S. administration.

Does the movie glorify war? Absolutely. So what? The message in the movie is freedom triumphing over tyranny, and in historical texts, this is exactly how the Greeks saw this war against the Persians. Outside of that, anything you read into it is your own interpretation. Sure - the producers are happy about it because people will think things like: "Gee, I heard this movie was about a subtext glorifying fascism, the war in Iraq and Pres. Bush... I think I'll buy a ticket and find out what the deal is..." So using peoples own personal interpretation of the artform - in this case a movie to sell tickets is what good movie making is all about - stirring the collective conscious of society.

I empathize with the vets you have spent time with in the V.A., but how does that have any bearing on this topic?

We are talking about a movie, they have lived the reality of war.
 

jimmydean

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Sep 10, 2001
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I look forward to seeing it. Yes, it glorifies war, that's what a majority of war movies do. But they also present the reality that in war, you can die.

So if you want the glory, then you're open to dying. I for one like being alive, so I left the war to someone else.
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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I look forward to seeing it. Yes, it glorifies war, that's what a majority of war movies do. But they also present the reality that in war, you can die.
my point is that portraying war as a video game/graphic novel, even if the protagonists die, conveniently leaves out the myriad ways war deforms people. (or maybe that was implied in the whole "there is no higher honor than to die in battle".)

:twitch:
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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my point is that portraying war as a video game/graphic novel, even if the protagonists die, conveniently leaves out the myriad ways war deforms people. (or maybe that was implied in the whole "there is no higher honor than to die in battle".)

:twitch:
it's a movie - it's art, storytelling, and entertainment all rolled into one.

It's not an episode of Dr. Phil, O.K.?

If someone sees this movie and doesn't understand the difference between 300 and the reality of war, they need a parent or guardian present during the viewing of this film... no matter what age they are.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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it's a movie - it's art, storytelling, and entertainment all rolled into one.

It's not an episode of Dr. Phil, O.K.?
i'm not saying that this movie is, but is there ever a point where it ceases to be protected as "art" and instead is propaganda?
 

S.K.C.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 28, 2005
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Man.....

Again - this is what YOU are reading into the movie, or what anyone else can if they want to...

It's like I said in my previous post - art is open to interpretation. It's propaganda if you interpret it that way. There was a conspiracy to release this movie to support fascism and the Bush administrations policies in Iraq if you interpret it that way.

Personally I view it as a struggle between myself and my neighbor who keeps dumping leaves in my backyard - but I interpret it that way because that is the most pressing issue on MY mind right now.

But, whatever - it's propaganda.

I heard that the "Spongebob Squarepants" movie was really about a propaganda campaign to spread homosexuality in America.

...and let me just say this: that Spongebob guy has a NICE ass.
 

LordOpie

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Oct 17, 2002
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Movie was awesome.

I loved everything about it. The senate diplomacy stuff wasn't really needed, but whatever.

The movie delivers very well.

It was bigger than life and lots of fun. I'd see it again.

By the way, those titties were spectacular :thumb:



 

moff_quigley

Why don't you have a seat over there?
Jan 27, 2005
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300 kicked all possible butt and took names.

[sarcasm]Just like "V for Vendetta" it was a movie that totally applied to what's going on in the world right now. I was amazed that events that happened so long ago speak so true to us today.[/sarcasm]

edit: The best part of the movie? The guy seating next to me reassuring and covering the eyes of his wife when various body parts started flying about. Good stuff.
 

stevew

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Sep 21, 2001
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And don't mistake this for an Ann Coulter thing, but I'll say that after spending two hours watching dudes in Speedos with six-pack abs and red capes piercing everything they can with long spears, I needed to watch a Chippendale video just to wind down.

I really wanted to stab someone after the movie -- and yet I felt so confused by it.
........
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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i must be unamerican, since i just watched it on imax and walked out more sober.