Yeah, no ****. It looks more like something some Mexican would use to haul around paint or manure or roofing shingles, ladders and tools something.
New Mahindra Diesel Pickups!
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There are a variety of cheap and unsafe Chinese trucks and cars in other markets. I've seen a few around Costa Rica before. The Mahindra truck probably seems nice in comparison.
Tiger! (the US government can buy these - the USAF has an $11M contract for 863 of them):
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So it should sell very well here in the states.
I saw a Tiger truck in use in a US gov't facility.
you can of course get the Transit Connect in a diesel everywhere else in the world.**** the Mahindra! How about a 4X4 diesel Ford Transit Connect
more smaller cargo van options here would be great too. a diesel would be asking too much
Every vehicle is made in a better way every where else in the world. I heard that they have these in Japan and korea but the gatekeepers are keeping it from getting here:
hover boards too!
Yeah, **** the government for not letting me buy awesome diesel cars and trucks.
Is the 4X4 Mercedes Sprinter sold in the US?**** the Mahindra! How about a 4X4 diesel Ford Transit Connect
Specs Here Scroll down a bit for the flatbed version.
4 door diesel version would make a great shuttle vehicle if I could afford one.
the diesel is yes, but certainly not a 4x4....that would be too awesome for America
I have only driven the Sprinter once on a longer trip to Germany. Amazing ride and strong engine. That would be my ultimate road trip truck and I can do without the 4x4.
Ugly, but I like it anyway.**** the Mahindra! How about a 4X4 diesel Ford Transit Connect
Come on the Transit Connect is brilliant.
My father-in-law uses a Sprinter to move pianos. It hauls and tows great and can get ~20 mpg on long trips. But it has broken down more times than all of my VWs combined (excluding my Corrado).
wow, i didnt think that was possible. i knew they were crap, but worse than a VW??!
I guess they are both Euro Trash then
but a sprinter could tow around your own personal skate ramp, Rob Dyrdek and Big.
On a side note I have the funniest Sprinter story. I rented one to pick up my wife who then lived in Hamburg. I had never driven a big van like that before and just as I was almost there I clip the side view mirror of and old Mercedes from the 1980 who was parked half way out on the street. I stop and the first thing I see is this fat German guy who looked like he was in the Griswold's European Vacation movie. He was just standing there speechless with the mirror in the hand looking at the van. It was the funniest sight. I told him I would park the van around the corner but when I came back on foot he was gone. Denmark 1 Germany 0.
It'd be wonderful if you could actually get one...**** the Mahindra! How about a 4X4 diesel Ford Transit Connect
Ive been following threads like this and others for some time.
Being in the autopmotive/trucking feild I have this take..... its only a matter of time.
There has been chatter over the last decade of what the new fuel will be when gasoline becomes to costly/unavailable.
My opinion we have two choices that make perfect sense.
Deisel, and Ethanol.
Why may one ask? simple........ Biodeisel is easy to make and we can make it forever out of soy oil, peanut oil etc. Same thing for ethanol...... gotta love making combustable material from organic material.
But hey you cant just put biodeisel into a deisel though.... you have to upgrade it........
Bull****..... thats for the guys using the at home system that uses used veggie oil.
gotta remember that deisel engines...... were not originally intended to run off fossil fuels........ the actual design for deisel engines was indeed intended to be run on soy oil, just so happens that in the process of using gasoline, and refining it, we ended up with deisel fuel<which both were actually named after the guy who designed the engine>
A deisel engine can burn deisel<duh> soy oil, corn oil, kerosene, peanut oil, old engine oil, basically its an oil burning engine............. if its oil, it can burn it. If the proper chemical process is done to any of these oils and much more, they will burn and react just fine in any deisel engine. Could go into pretty heavy details on the fuel, but this suffices just fine.
But you have to upgrade existing cars for ethanol..... yeah you do but its not as hard as one would think..... Most vehicles its a simple PCM flash with new timing and fuel stratagies....... Older vehicles... well you may get screwed in the overall.....
Bottom line, these two fuels are renewable, easy to manf, cleaner to manf, and work well.
Being in the autopmotive/trucking feild I have this take..... its only a matter of time.
There has been chatter over the last decade of what the new fuel will be when gasoline becomes to costly/unavailable.
My opinion we have two choices that make perfect sense.
Deisel, and Ethanol.
Why may one ask? simple........ Biodeisel is easy to make and we can make it forever out of soy oil, peanut oil etc. Same thing for ethanol...... gotta love making combustable material from organic material.
But hey you cant just put biodeisel into a deisel though.... you have to upgrade it........
Bull****..... thats for the guys using the at home system that uses used veggie oil.
gotta remember that deisel engines...... were not originally intended to run off fossil fuels........ the actual design for deisel engines was indeed intended to be run on soy oil, just so happens that in the process of using gasoline, and refining it, we ended up with deisel fuel<which both were actually named after the guy who designed the engine>
A deisel engine can burn deisel<duh> soy oil, corn oil, kerosene, peanut oil, old engine oil, basically its an oil burning engine............. if its oil, it can burn it. If the proper chemical process is done to any of these oils and much more, they will burn and react just fine in any deisel engine. Could go into pretty heavy details on the fuel, but this suffices just fine.
But you have to upgrade existing cars for ethanol..... yeah you do but its not as hard as one would think..... Most vehicles its a simple PCM flash with new timing and fuel stratagies....... Older vehicles... well you may get screwed in the overall.....
Bottom line, these two fuels are renewable, easy to manf, cleaner to manf, and work well.
Ford is dropping the Ranger because the US market can not sustain a small pickup truck. Mahindra might be really awesome but Merica as a whole probably can't make it profitable.
GM is a big supporter with their vehicles that run on E85, AKA flex fuel. it would be another fossil fuel alternative, but the refueling infrastructure is zilch and you dont get as much power as you do with putting gas in the tank.
the new global Ranger is awesome looking and we of course are not getting it. the Tacoma basically has the market cornered and Ford is dropping the Ranger stateside to focus on their bread and butter, the F-Series.
Just like when the focused on SUVs and dropped the Taurus. Short attention span
E85 isnt just ethanol though, its a mix of anything from 10% ethanol to 85% ethanol......... There is a ton going on with the flexfuel vehicles, on that if you dont add more than two gallons of fuel, the vehicle wont go into fuel test mode, as of now we are just trying to mix the two together and see what we come up with.... if wouldnt take much to make a vehicle that was built and tuned for straight ethanol.
FWIW....E85 inst another alternative, its just a half mix of fossil and ethanol.
they thankfully brought back to the Taurus and made it look and perform great though. when they re-badged the the Five Hundred and called it a Taurus, that was a big joke.Just like when the focused on SUVs and dropped the Taurus. Short attention span
i know E85 isnt just straight ethanol, but its a alternative fuel to straight gasoline according to the EPA. and no, E85 can contain no less than 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline....hence the name (http://www.e85fuel.com/frequently-asked-questions/)
E85 also gets less gas mileage than gasoline, but typically the cost is offset.
as of right now, E85 is one of the only widely available alt-fuels in the States and one of the only alt-fuels supported widely by auto mfg's stateside.
DirtyMike, (not against you, but in support of your point)
I think the diversion of any land away from the production of food and toward production of crops for fuel without a secondary use is rediculous.
The use of crops like sunflower and canola seeds to produce oils to be consumed as bio diesel is smarter than using ethanol. The process for pressing the oil out of the seeds leaves behind a livestock feed (sans oil that is).
oh and the fact that most of the oils can be used in the cooking process then used for fuel makes it a 3 use product. (not that I am endorsing the consumption of fried foods but... just sayin)
the production of Ethanol is a costly one (environmentally speaking). Estimates have it at around 3 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol out of corn. So just from the water standpoint it is costly to convert corn to fuel, let alone the cost of producing the corn, and the cost of producing the corn and not using it for a food source, but as fuel.
My money is on Bio-diesel not ethanol!
hopefully we start to see more small diesels in the states.
here is a good story about farmers using home grown biodiesel to run their farms.
http://www.alleghenyfront.org/story.html?storyid=201010061215210.475947
I think the diversion of any land away from the production of food and toward production of crops for fuel without a secondary use is rediculous.
The use of crops like sunflower and canola seeds to produce oils to be consumed as bio diesel is smarter than using ethanol. The process for pressing the oil out of the seeds leaves behind a livestock feed (sans oil that is).
oh and the fact that most of the oils can be used in the cooking process then used for fuel makes it a 3 use product. (not that I am endorsing the consumption of fried foods but... just sayin)
the production of Ethanol is a costly one (environmentally speaking). Estimates have it at around 3 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol out of corn. So just from the water standpoint it is costly to convert corn to fuel, let alone the cost of producing the corn, and the cost of producing the corn and not using it for a food source, but as fuel.
My money is on Bio-diesel not ethanol!
hopefully we start to see more small diesels in the states.
here is a good story about farmers using home grown biodiesel to run their farms.
http://www.alleghenyfront.org/story.html?storyid=201010061215210.475947
Dirtymike is probably aware of ethanol from better sources like biowaste, algae, and switchgrass. Traditional sources of ethanol from corn or sugar do suck.
As he said E85 does vary but maybe he is talking about the E10 for the 10%. On E85:
As he said E85 does vary but maybe he is talking about the E10 for the 10%. On E85:
Ethanol has been used in certain racing applications for a long time. E98 is also available. Some have converted other racing vehicles for E85:
Agreed, but the process of making ethanol (whether it be alge, switchgrass or other) is dependent on water for its fermentation process. further stressing the environment.
I used Ethanol when I used to race go-carts. Yes lots of power with only a few engine mods (mostly timing) but you had to thoroughly clean the engine system with regular fuel in order to keep the ethanol from eating the engine!
I still want to drive one and would likely consider a slightly used one after someone absorbs the bulk of the depreciation. Cars/trucks are one item I will NEVER buy brand new.
Brunge..... Very thoughtfull responce. You rabsolutly right, I personally belive that the Biodiesel is much more applicable way to go all around, I fully support it.
My further reasoning for the ethanol is mainly because the other alternative is Hydrogen. Whil;e Hydrogen motors are great, you still consume water to get the hydrogen. Its just too hard to actually harvest Hydrogen from the atmosphere, just like science projects when we were kids, a little electricity into water, and you seperate it into Hydrogen and ogygen........ BUT, on top of that, because of past events such as the Hyndeburg<Sp> There is a stigma about Hydrogen, its actually a very safe fuel to use, but people dont see it like that... on top of that you have to remove the tanks from the vehicle every five years for certification........ I just bring up the ethanol because most of the general public wont realize its environmental implication, but see it as something safe.
As far as E85 always being 85% ethanol, thats the difference between theory, and reality. I have personally ran the tests on the fuel and seen a HUGE varience in the fuels levels, as low as 50% when listed as E85. Thats the secondary reason that flex fuel vehicles are actualyl designed to measure the concentration when you fill up, the primary being you possibly had half a tank of gasoline, and topped with e85.
Im not a huge supporter of ethanol, just what I see that the world will go to as a gasoline alternative.
Syadasti..... Im glad I am not the only one that realizes there is alot of ways to get ethanol, ther is better ways other than corn or sugars, as to what will end up being the best... only time will tell.
My further reasoning for the ethanol is mainly because the other alternative is Hydrogen. Whil;e Hydrogen motors are great, you still consume water to get the hydrogen. Its just too hard to actually harvest Hydrogen from the atmosphere, just like science projects when we were kids, a little electricity into water, and you seperate it into Hydrogen and ogygen........ BUT, on top of that, because of past events such as the Hyndeburg<Sp> There is a stigma about Hydrogen, its actually a very safe fuel to use, but people dont see it like that... on top of that you have to remove the tanks from the vehicle every five years for certification........ I just bring up the ethanol because most of the general public wont realize its environmental implication, but see it as something safe.
As far as E85 always being 85% ethanol, thats the difference between theory, and reality. I have personally ran the tests on the fuel and seen a HUGE varience in the fuels levels, as low as 50% when listed as E85. Thats the secondary reason that flex fuel vehicles are actualyl designed to measure the concentration when you fill up, the primary being you possibly had half a tank of gasoline, and topped with e85.
Im not a huge supporter of ethanol, just what I see that the world will go to as a gasoline alternative.
Syadasti..... Im glad I am not the only one that realizes there is alot of ways to get ethanol, ther is better ways other than corn or sugars, as to what will end up being the best... only time will tell.
alright, screw this never-happening-model and their importer.
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2010/12/system-shows-ram-1500-diesel-hybrid
dear diary, jackpot
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2010/12/system-shows-ram-1500-diesel-hybrid
Oh. My. Gawd.
haven't they promised every spring to have that engine ready by the fall and not once come out with it?
Oh, and has profro commented in this thread yet? Dude's a diesel engineer type and knows all this mumbo jumbo you guys are spouting.
no, its been a few years since all 3 US companies said they werent going to make one.
but new news looks promising
Allpar's news has always been near 100% accurate when it comes to future Chrysler vehicles/products
I thought I had read somewhere that Dodge couldn't afford what Cummins wanted, so the contract was going to Toyota? Or maybe it was just the larger motors?
there were purported talks b/w Cummins and Nissan, but those fizzled. and it was to be for light-duty trucks
contracts were extended recently b/w Chrysler and Cummins
http://blog.chryslergroupllc.com/blog.do;jsessionid=A0D12A1D3629FB1D3FAAA4A7B3A91CB0?id=916&p=entry
Sweet! I will end up swapping a 4BT into my C20 when I finally burn up the 327 rather than get a new truck. But it would be nice to have some options.
